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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 13:20:06 GMT
Baryonyx walkeri: 9.5 metres in length, 2.6 tons in weight  Allosaurus fragilis: 8.5-9.8 metres in length, 2-3 tons in weight  |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 13:23:14 GMT
This fight really depends on whether we are using the average or the max size estimate for Allosaurus fragilis;
If the Allosaurus is at its average size, Baryonyx would win.
If the Allosaurus is at its hypothetical max size (Epanterias amplexus or whatever you want to call it), Allosaurus would win.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 26, 2013 16:38:06 GMT
I am starting to doubt baryonyx's size, at current specimen sizes allosaurus wins but at adult sizes I really don't know
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Post by Theropod on Dec 26, 2013 16:38:22 GMT
Epanterias is a dubious genus, I am gonna use the average size for this... Which is a mismatch. But if we consider Epanterias as an Allosaurus then I would say Allosaurus wins.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 26, 2013 16:40:28 GMT
It isn't really a mismatch at all. Allosaurus could approach 10 metres in size.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 16:46:06 GMT
It isn't really a mismatch at all. Allosaurus could approach 10 metres in size. But Baryonyx was 9.5 metres in length as a juvenile alone. Adult Baryonyx could of been 11+ metres in size, which is a lot larger than the average 9 metre Allosaurus. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 16:50:24 GMT
I am starting to doubt baryonyx's size, at current specimen sizes allosaurus wins but at adult sizes I really don't know Allosaurus is 9+ metres in length and 2+ tons in weight at adult size, that is confirmed. 'Current specimen sizes' is very unspecific. Different specimens of Allosaurus are very variable in size, and the juvenile Baryonyx specimen is larger than most Allosaurus specimens found. |
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Post by Theropod on Dec 26, 2013 16:51:10 GMT
The 10 metre Allosaurus would probably be like 3 tons, while Baryonyx is like 4.5 tons, which is 1.5 times larger. So it is basically the same thing as a 100kg animal vs a 66kg animal. It may not be a mismatch but it's close to that.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 16:55:13 GMT
The 10 metre Allosaurus would probably be like 3 tons, while Baryonyx is like 4.5 tons, which is 1.5 times larger. So it is basically the same thing as a 100kg animal vs a 66kg animal. It may not be a mismatch but it's close to that. 10 metres and 3 tons is the confirmed max size of Allosaurus. 4.5 tons is more like the average size of Baryonyx. |
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Post by Theropod on Dec 26, 2013 16:59:31 GMT
The 10 metre Allosaurus would probably be like 3 tons, while Baryonyx is like 4.5 tons, which is 1.5 times larger. So it is basically the same thing as a 100kg animal vs a 66kg animal. It may not be a mismatch but it's close to that. 10 metres and 3 tons is the confirmed max size of Allosaurus. 4.5 tons is more like the average size of Baryonyx. Which only strenghtens my case |
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 26, 2013 17:03:59 GMT
 This is currently the Baryonyx holotype(sub adult) compared with a 9 metre allosaurus specimen( DINO 2560). The baryonyx is only a tiny bit bigger (I would say around 200kg + heavier which is not enough to give it a real advantage). This isn't even the largest allosaurus specimen we can use as-well. The largest allosaurus specimen I currently know of is one of the ones in the american museum of natural history which is like 9.8 metres long and approaching 3 tons. I am still doubting the size of Baryonyx though. At current specimens allosaurus wins without much trouble but a real fight would be at adult size. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 17:09:17 GMT
This is currently the Baryonyx holotype(sub adult) compared with a 9 metre allosaurus specimen( DINO 2560). The baryonyx is only a tiny bit bigger (I would say around 200kg + heavier which is not enough to give it a real advantage). This isn't even the largest allosaurus specimen we can use as-well. The largest allosaurus specimen I currently know of is one of the ones in the american museum of natural history which is like 9.8 metres long and approaching 3 tons. I am still doubting the size of Baryonyx though. At current specimens allosaurus wins without much trouble but a real fight would be at adult size. That sub-adult Baryonyx is not just a tiny bit bigger, it is considerably bigger judging by that diagram. Also the average size for Allosaurus is around 8.5 metres in length, even the 9 metre long Allosaurus is probably larger than the average Allosaurus. The sub-adult Baryonyx is also slightly larger than the largest confirmed Allosaurus specimen. |
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 26, 2013 17:13:21 GMT
Its only a tiny bit taller and longer, its only 200+ kg heavier. Its not that much bigger and not only that Allosaurus has superior weaponry.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 26, 2013 17:18:58 GMT
Its only a tiny bit taller and longer, its only 200+ kg heavier. Its not that much bigger and not only that Allosaurus has superior weaponry. You seem to ignore the fact that the 10 metre sub- adult Baryonyx in that image has a larger femur, ribcage, backbone, and larger legs than the 9 metre Allosaurus. With the extra length and height the 10 metre sub- adult Baryonyx would be at least 500+kg larger than the 9 metre Allosaurus, which is a pretty good advantage. Keep in mind these animals aren't 7-8 tons in weight so 500 kg can be a good advantage. |
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 26, 2013 17:26:08 GMT
Its only a tiny bit taller and longer, its only 200+ kg heavier. Its not that much bigger and not only that Allosaurus has superior weaponry. You seem to ignore the fact that the sub- adult Baryonyx in that image has a larger femur, ribcage, backbone, and larger legs than the Allosaurus. With the extra length and height the sub- adult Baryonyx would be at least 500+kg larger than Allosaurus, which is a pretty good advantage. Keep in mind these animals aren't 7-8 tons in weight so 500 kg can be a good advantage. That wouldn't add much of a weight advantage: carnivoraforum.com/single/?p=8589059&t=10003874As said there megalosauriods have more of a slab sided chest regions which isn't the case for more of the broad ones of the allosaurus. Its 2.6 tons vs 2.4 tons. Not only that the one in the american museum of natural history which was 9.8 metres long was probably heavier overall. |
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