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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Nov 26, 2013 0:49:04 GMT
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Post by Angilasuruda on Nov 26, 2013 0:52:00 GMT
(I really don't know dinosaur facts.) Hmm. In my opinion, I think that Torvo would win. If that's wrong, then alright.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Nov 26, 2013 7:38:38 GMT
Torvosaurus wins, it had a massive size and strength advantage.
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 17:35:58 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins.
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Nov 27, 2013 19:08:00 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins. well torvosaurus actually had a very powerful bite force as well, i wouldn't even be so sure about tarbo having a stronger bite. torvosaurus had a pretty massive skull and its teeth are huge:  tarbosaurus is bulkier though. i know torvosaurus was probably rather slender but those jaws could make up for that. i think this is pretty close. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Nov 27, 2013 19:53:57 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins. Tarbosaurus was only 9 metres in length and 3 tons in weight, while Torvosaurus was 11 metres in length and weighed around 3.5 tons. Torvosaurus wasn't particularly gracile, Megalosauriods (Megalosauirds and Spinosaurids) in general were pretty chunky/bulky due to their wide rib cages. They weren't as bulky as Abelisaurids and Tyrannosaurids however. Torvosaurus wins this 60% of the time in my opinion. 3,500 newtons is a pretty powerful bite force considering that Torvosaurus was only 3.5 tons. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Nov 27, 2013 19:54:49 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins. well torvosaurus actually had a very powerful bite force as well, i wouldn't even be so sure about tarbo having a stronger bite. torvosaurus had a pretty massive skull and its teeth are huge: tarbosaurus is bulkier though. i know torvosaurus was probably rather slender but those jaws could make up for that. i think this is pretty close. Torvosaurus wasn't that slender, it still had a pretty wide ribcage. |
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Those teeth placements are wrong xD having longer teeth will hurt its mouth  , that torvo pic has fake bones and isn't right. |
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 20:26:49 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins. well torvosaurus actually had a very powerful bite force as well, i wouldn't even be so sure about tarbo having a stronger bite. torvosaurus had a pretty massive skull and its teeth are huge: tarbosaurus is bulkier though. i know torvosaurus was probably rather slender but those jaws could make up for that. i think this is pretty close. But it had a larger jaw so it applied less stress to one area in particular. Tarbosaurus wins in biteforce terms. |
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 20:30:39 GMT
themechabaryonyx789 They are both around the size but Tarbosaurus will probably win. Torvosaurus is pretty gracile, even Allosaurus has a deeper torso than it. Tarbosaurus had a stronger bite and since it's a tyrannosaurid it's his main weapon. Tarbosaurus wins. Tarbosaurus was only 9 metres in length and 3 tons in weight, while Torvosaurus was 11 metres in length and weighed around 3.5 tons. Torvosaurus wasn't particularly gracile, Megalosauriods (Megalosauirds and Spinosaurids) in general were pretty chunky/bulky due to their wide rib cages. They weren't as bulky as Abelisaurids and Tyrannosaurids however. Torvosaurus wins this 60% of the time in my opinion. 3,500 newtons is a pretty powerful bite force considering that Torvosaurus was only 3.5 tons. Tarbosaurus is 9-10 metres and 3+ tons. Torvosaurus is 9-11 metres and since it's actually more gracile than Tarbosaurus it was actually similar in mass. Torvosaurus doesn't have a size advantage since you actually have to be much bigger ust so it will even matter. Also with a Torvosaurus only 500kg heavier it's not even an advantage. Also Torvosaurus is pretty gracile compared to Tarbosaurus. As I said even Allosaurus had a deeper torso. Tarbosaurus has an edge. |
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 20:36:43 GMT
Torvosaurus didn't have a really large size advantage over Tarbosaurus. You should keep in mind that you need a considerably large size advantage just so it matters. Not something like "Torvosaurus is 500kg heavier so it wins". Since they are so similar in weight you can also say they are the same size because both being 3 tons is plausible. The main weapon of a tyrannosaurid is its biteforce. Tarbosaurus wins about 55-60% of the time.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Nov 27, 2013 20:52:38 GMT
Tarbosaurus was only 9 metres in length and 3 tons in weight, while Torvosaurus was 11 metres in length and weighed around 3.5 tons. Torvosaurus wasn't particularly gracile, Megalosauriods (Megalosauirds and Spinosaurids) in general were pretty chunky/bulky due to their wide rib cages. They weren't as bulky as Abelisaurids and Tyrannosaurids however. Torvosaurus wins this 60% of the time in my opinion. 3,500 newtons is a pretty powerful bite force considering that Torvosaurus was only 3.5 tons. Tarbosaurus is 9-10 metres and 3+ tons. Torvosaurus is 9-11 metres and since it's actually more gracile than Tarbosaurus it was actually similar in mass. Torvosaurus doesn't have a size advantage since you actually have to be much bigger ust so it will even matter. Also with a Torvosaurus only 500kg heavier it's not even an advantage. Also Torvosaurus is pretty gracile compared to Tarbosaurus. As I said even Allosaurus had a deeper torso. Tarbosaurus has an edge. Allosaurus had a deeper torso, but Torvosaurus had a wider torso. Torvosaurus was still larger than Tarbosaurus at their max sizes. At their average sizes Tarbosaurus would probably win however. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Nov 27, 2013 20:54:23 GMT
Torvosaurus didn't have a really large size advantage over Tarbosaurus. You should keep in mind that you need a considerably large size advantage just so it matters. Not something like "Torvosaurus is 500kg heavier so it wins". Since they are so similar in weight you can also say they are the same size because both being 3 tons is plausible. The main weapon of a tyrannosaurid is its biteforce. Tarbosaurus wins about 55-60% of the time. You do realise that the main weapon of an animal like Torvosaurus would also be its bite force, and Torvosaurus' bite force was around 3,500 newtons. That's a pretty powerful bite when used efficiently. |
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 20:59:58 GMT
Tarbosaurus is 9-10 metres and 3+ tons. Torvosaurus is 9-11 metres and since it's actually more gracile than Tarbosaurus it was actually similar in mass. Torvosaurus doesn't have a size advantage since you actually have to be much bigger ust so it will even matter. Also with a Torvosaurus only 500kg heavier it's not even an advantage. Also Torvosaurus is pretty gracile compared to Tarbosaurus. As I said even Allosaurus had a deeper torso. Tarbosaurus has an edge. Allosaurus had a deeper torso, but Torvosaurus had a wider torso. Torvosaurus was still larger than Tarbosaurus at their max sizes. At their average sizes Tarbosaurus would probably win however. But you are using the max size instead of using the range which is 9-11 metres. Also since they are gonna bite most of the time Tarbosaurus will win 55-60% of the time because of its stronger biteforce. Both are pretty much the same size. Also you are ignoring that Tarbosaurus is 9.5-10+ metres not just 9 metres. Tarbosaurus wins 55-60% of the time. |
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Post by Theropod on Nov 27, 2013 21:02:36 GMT
Tarbosaurus is 9-10 metres and 3+ tons. Torvosaurus is 9-11 metres and since it's actually more gracile than Tarbosaurus it was actually similar in mass. Torvosaurus doesn't have a size advantage since you actually have to be much bigger ust so it will even matter. Also with a Torvosaurus only 500kg heavier it's not even an advantage. Also Torvosaurus is pretty gracile compared to Tarbosaurus. As I said even Allosaurus had a deeper torso. Tarbosaurus has an edge. Allosaurus had a deeper torso, but Torvosaurus had a wider torso. Torvosaurus was still larger than Tarbosaurus at their max sizes. At their average sizes Tarbosaurus would probably win however. Also you are using a size estimate for Tarbosaurus that is actually undersized, while you are using the maximum size for Torvosaurus which is highly unfair. Using an "average" is actually much more fair than that. And since you agreed that Tarbosaurus wins at average sizes then you are just contradicing yourself. |
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