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Post by Angilasuruda on Apr 15, 2014 16:18:47 GMT
Spinosaurus is the king of the dinosaurs. Spinosaurus was the biggest meat eating dinosaur to ever walk the earth. It was also the strongest predator. Spinosaurus's name means ''spined lizard'' but its real one is ''spined lizard king''. Amphiceolis was very weak and it was smaller than an iguanadon. But the iguanadon would fight back no matter. Spinosaurus is king and amphiceolis is defianetely is not. Amphiceolis was weaker than an iguanadon. Spinosaurus is stronger than t rex, giganotosaurus, carcharodontosaurus and espescially amphiceolis *chuckle* BWAHAHAHAHAHA SPINED LIZARD KING? DUDE, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? AMPHICOELIAS IS MUCH LARGER THAN SPINOSAURUS. |
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Post by DJ Spinosaurus on Apr 15, 2014 16:35:31 GMT
Spinosaurus is the king of the dinosaurs. Spinosaurus was the biggest meat eating dinosaur to ever walk the earth. It was also the strongest predator. Spinosaurus's name means ''spined lizard'' but its real one is ''spined lizard king''. Amphiceolis was very weak and it was smaller than an iguanadon. But the iguanadon would fight back no matter. Spinosaurus is king and amphiceolis is defianetely is not. Amphiceolis was weaker than an iguanadon. Spinosaurus is stronger than t rex, giganotosaurus, carcharodontosaurus and espescially amphiceolis *chuckle* BWAHAHAHAHAHA SPINED LIZARD KING? DUDE, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? AMPHICOELIAS IS MUCH LARGER THAN SPINOSAURUS. Exactly to tell the truth I was laughing my head off when he said that Amphicoelias was Smaller then Iguanodon |
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Post by Theropod on Apr 15, 2014 17:25:43 GMT
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Apr 19, 2014 17:41:47 GMT
 Amphicoelias compared to a African Elephant and a Blue Whale To be fair the blue whale probably weighs more than Amphicoelias. Also don't take this Spinosaurus guy seriously |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Apr 19, 2014 17:44:00 GMT
Spinosaurus is the king of the dinosaurs. Spinosaurus was the biggest meat eating dinosaur to ever walk the earth. It was also the strongest predator. Spinosaurus's name means ''spined lizard'' but its real one is ''spined lizard king''. Amphiceolis was very weak and it was smaller than an iguanadon. But the iguanadon would fight back no matter. Spinosaurus is king and amphiceolis is defianetely is not. Amphiceolis was weaker than an iguanadon. Spinosaurus is stronger than t rex, giganotosaurus, carcharodontosaurus and espescially amphiceolis 'Amphicoelias was weaker than an Iguanodon'  |
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Post by Theropod on Apr 19, 2014 17:55:23 GMT
Yeah, Amphicoelias fragillimus was probably around the 70 ton range.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Apr 25, 2014 20:32:55 GMT
actually i believe it was discribed being around the 80 ton range
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Post by Theropod on Apr 25, 2014 21:21:13 GMT
Yeah around that
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Post by Theropod on Jun 28, 2014 19:33:29 GMT
50/50 in my opinion, as I have brought up in another thread, the muscular ridge of Spinosaurus aegyptiacus likely gave it some 2-3 tons, evening up the sizes a bit more. It's worth noting that the weight in muscle matters more than the overall mass, so given how a larger percentage of Spinosaurus aegyptiacus' musculature is unhelpful here, I think the "mass, therefore strength" argument here isn't as strong as it is on matches where animals have equal or near equal percentages in the aspect of serviceable skeletal muscles in a fight.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Jun 30, 2014 20:22:06 GMT
Except 2 to 3 tons is not the likely weight for spinosaurus sail. Its more likely to be 1000 pounds. Were talking about a structure only centimeters thick.
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Post by Theropod on Jun 30, 2014 21:08:48 GMT
spinosaurus1That was already somewhat "discussed" in another thread, and even so you gotta remember that this isn't a bone-only structure, it's likely a muscular ridge (a concept which you actually support), it would definitely be heavy assuming a structure that goes from the base of the neck to the tail.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Jun 30, 2014 21:39:52 GMT
Yes, I beleive its a possibility, but that still doesnt come to the fact that it will weigh even a ton, much less two or three. The consentration of the muscle would most likely be located at the base of the vertebrae. Not throughout the entire distribution of the vertebral columns. As I stated before, this is a structure only centimeters thick.
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Post by ornitholestes on Jul 7, 2014 12:41:45 GMT
Who said that musculature located on the dorsal ridge (which undboutedly existed, albeit to what extent is debatable) would not be helpful? Additional support is ALWAYS needed in a giant animal, in one form or another, so by this logic we could always say "but a large part of the larger animal’s size advantage is just additional support structures".
And imo whether these support structures are a deep, dorsal ridge or enlarged, robust vertebral centra doesn’t really matter.
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Post by Theropod on Jul 7, 2014 13:04:29 GMT
ornitholestesI claimed so, as in it doesn't contribute as much as previously elucidated concerning strength derived from mass.
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Post by ornitholestes on Jul 7, 2014 13:17:42 GMT
That throws up the question what "strenght derived from mass" as previously elucidated actually is. To me, it was always clear that larger animals have to appoint a larger amount of their strenght to supporting their body mass. Nevertheless, larger animals have an easier time overpowering smaller animals than vice versa.
It isn’t just "free" muscular strenght (which they are superior in too, of course), it’s also sheer weight that can be used in this capacity.
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