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Post by Theropod on Jan 18, 2014 17:56:00 GMT
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 18:04:09 GMT
1. Giganotosaurus kills the Spinosaurid
2. I would swap 1 and 2 since baryonyx is going to be easier
3. Beats the Acrocanthosaurus
4. Beats the Allosaurus
5. Either stops here or passes since this is 50/50
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 18, 2014 18:17:52 GMT
basically what spore said.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 18, 2014 18:25:08 GMT
Round 1: Giganotosaurus' far superior biteforce gives it the edge, it wins more often than not.
Round 2: Baryonyx is pretty much the same.
Round 3: This is a more even fight, but Giganotosauurs still wins, this is very close however.
Round 4: Giganotosaurus has a superior biteforce, it will win more often than not, taking into consideration that biteforce is an important factor in most of those fights.
Round 5: Despite the fact Tyrannosaurus has a stronger biteforce, Giganotosaurus compensates that with a beter gape. I do think it stops it, though.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 18:26:35 GMT
Giganotosaurus doesn't have a superior bite than allosaurus at parity...
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 18, 2014 18:34:36 GMT
1. Giganotosaurus kills the Spinosaurid 2. I would swap 1 and 2 since baryonyx is going to be easier 3. Beats the Acrocanthosaurus 4. Beats the Allosaurus 5. Either stops here or passes since this is 50/50 Baryonyx would actually have a stronger bite force than Spinosaurus at parity, so I don't see how it is 'easier'. |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 18, 2014 18:36:59 GMT
It possibly did, although not by much. Here are two skeletals, compare them: Giganotosaurus' angular and surangular were more impressive than those of Allosaurus. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 18, 2014 18:37:45 GMT
Giganotosaurus passes pretty much all the rounds apart from round 5. Round 5 would likely be around 50/50.
Also at first I didn't read the part about them all being the same size, so I thought that rounds 2,3, and 4 were total mismatches lol.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 18, 2014 18:40:31 GMT
1. Giganotosaurus kills the Spinosaurid 2. I would swap 1 and 2 since baryonyx is going to be easier 3. Beats the Acrocanthosaurus 4. Beats the Allosaurus 5. Either stops here or passes since this is 50/50 Baryonyx would actually have a stronger bite force than Spinosaurus at parity, so I don't see how it is 'easier'. How so? Their skull structures are overall totally different. Even Spinosaurus' surangular and angular were far more impressive than those of Baryonyx, in fact the whole skull structure of Spinosaurus is more impressive. |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 18:52:54 GMT
1. Giganotosaurus kills the Spinosaurid 2. I would swap 1 and 2 since baryonyx is going to be easier 3. Beats the Acrocanthosaurus 4. Beats the Allosaurus 5. Either stops here or passes since this is 50/50 Baryonyx would actually have a stronger bite force than Spinosaurus at parity, so I don't see how it is 'easier'. What the flying fuck, how? |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 18, 2014 18:55:47 GMT
Baryonyx would actually have a stronger bite force than Spinosaurus at parity, so I don't see how it is 'easier'. How so? Their skull structures are overall totally different. Even Spinosaurus' surangular and angular were far more impressive than those of Baryonyx, in fact the whole skull structure of Spinosaurus is more impressive. Baryonichines actually had slightly stronger bite forces than Spinosaurines at parity. But in turn, Spinosaurines are slightly bulkier at parity. RaptorX has stated this before (the above part) Having a larger skull doesn't necessarily mean a stronger bite. Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus are examples of this. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 18, 2014 18:56:27 GMT
Baryonyx would actually have a stronger bite force than Spinosaurus at parity, so I don't see how it is 'easier'. What the flying fuck, how? I stated why in the previous post |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 18:59:24 GMT
It possibly did, although not by much. Here are two skeletals, compare them: Giganotosaurus' angular and surangular were more impressive than those of Allosaurus.That doesn't really show if it produced a stronger bite, Giganotosaurus, Mapusaurus and Carcharodontosaurus have much more impressive skulls than T. rex but T. rex has a much stronger bite. |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 18, 2014 19:01:14 GMT
How so? Their skull structures are overall totally different. Even Spinosaurus' surangular and angular were far more impressive than those of Baryonyx, in fact the whole skull structure of Spinosaurus is more impressive. Baryonichines actually had slightly stronger bite forces than Spinosaurines at parity. But in turn, Spinosaurines are slightly bulkier at parity. RaptorX has stated this before (the above part) Having a larger skull doesn't necessarily mean a stronger bite. Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus are examples of this. Can you give me like a link or source because I highly doubt it since they are pretty similar(Spinosaurus having a more impressive skull imo) |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 18, 2014 19:05:07 GMT
"I'd say that spinosaurinae have a weak bite force for their size, but according to Emily Rayfield's research baryonychinae have bite forces comparable to other theropods in their size range."
RaptorX said this
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