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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:58 GMT
Team Tyrannosauridae Tyrannosaurus rex 
Tarbosaurus bataar
Daspletosaurus torosus 
Bistahieversor sealeyi 
Team Ceratopsia Triceratops horridus 
Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis 
Centrosaurus apertus 
Medusaceratops lokii 
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 4, 2014 19:56:23 GMT
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Post by Theropod on Jan 4, 2014 20:01:40 GMT
Most of those fights are pretty close.
T. rex vs Triceratops: Triceratops has an advantage due to better weaponry
Tarbosaurus vs Pachyrhinosaurus: They are similar-sized and I favour Tarbosaurus on this one since Pachyrhinosaurus didn't have a weaponry as good as that of other ceratopsians like Triceratops.
Centrosaurus vs Daspletosaurus: Both are roughly the same size, I would favour Daspletosaurus in this one (slightly).
Bistahieversor vs Medusaceratops: Medusaceratops didn't even have a good weaponry, in fact its horns wouldn't help in combat. Bistahieversor wins.
Tyrannosauridae wins here
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 4, 2014 21:01:20 GMT
Its 50/50 2 of which are 50/50 and 1 win for each side
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Post by es1001 on Jan 4, 2014 23:45:56 GMT
Theropod nailed it. What he said is completely accurate. Tyrannosaurs take this one.
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 4, 2014 23:56:20 GMT
Most of those fights are pretty close. T. rex vs Triceratops: Triceratops has an advantage due to better weaponry Tarbosaurus vs Pachyrhinosaurus: They are similar-sized and I favour Tarbosaurus on this one since Pachyrhinosaurus didn't have a weaponry as good as that of other ceratopsians like Triceratops. Centrosaurus vs Daspletosaurus: Both are roughly the same size, I would favour Daspletosaurus in this one (slightly). Bistahieversor vs Medusaceratops: Medusaceratops didn't even have a good weaponry, in fact its horns wouldn't help in combat. Bistahieversor wins. Tyrannosauridae wins here centrosaurus would actually beat daspletosaurus imo, even if they were at the same size. i would favour a well armed ceratopsian over any similar sized theropod.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 0:05:40 GMT
Theropod nailed it. What he said is completely accurate. Tyrannosaurs take this one. I am still not very sure of it, since they are close fights. It's kinda 50/50 but I will give it to Tyrannosauridae. Medusaceratops and Pachyrhinosaurus don't have good enough weaponry to fight tyrannosaurids that have well-developed biteforces. Triceratops is the only one that wins here for sure, Centrosaurus had better weaponry than Medusaceratops and Pachyrhinosaurus but it was not as good as Triceratops'. I am still confident that Tyrannosauridae wins here. |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 0:08:57 GMT
Most of those fights are pretty close. T. rex vs Triceratops: Triceratops has an advantage due to better weaponry Tarbosaurus vs Pachyrhinosaurus: They are similar-sized and I favour Tarbosaurus on this one since Pachyrhinosaurus didn't have a weaponry as good as that of other ceratopsians like Triceratops. Centrosaurus vs Daspletosaurus: Both are roughly the same size, I would favour Daspletosaurus in this one (slightly). Bistahieversor vs Medusaceratops: Medusaceratops didn't even have a good weaponry, in fact its horns wouldn't help in combat. Bistahieversor wins. Tyrannosauridae wins here centrosaurus would actually beat daspletosaurus imo, even if they were at the same size. i would favour a well armed ceratopsian over any similar sized theropod.
anyways 50/50 I wouldn't be so sure. Other than the formidable horn, Centrosaurus had no other weapons. Triceratops had two horns that could be used so that's already an advantage. Daspletosauurs could pretty much go for any other part of Centrosaurus, it was pretty vulnerable. Ceratopsians over all have a disadvantage here which is their generally vulnerable, unprotected body, that is another reason I am giving it to Tyrannosauridae. |
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 5, 2014 3:04:01 GMT
centrosaurus would actually beat daspletosaurus imo, even if they were at the same size. i would favour a well armed ceratopsian over any similar sized theropod.
anyways 50/50 I wouldn't be so sure. Other than the formidable horn, Centrosaurus had no other weapons. Triceratops had two horns that could be used so that's already an advantage. Daspletosauurs could pretty much go for any other part of Centrosaurus, it was pretty vulnerable. Ceratopsians over all have a disadvantage here which is their generally vulnerable, unprotected body, that is another reason I am giving it to Tyrannosauridae. even if daspletosaurus happened to get to its side, centrosaurus could actually just turn as well and is capable of keeping that horn facing daspletosaurus, making it really hard for das to inflict any major damage without getting stabbed by that horn. if daspletosaurus managed to get behind and bit the centrosaurus on the neck, then it can win, but i don't see that happening the majority of the time. |
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Post by raptorx863 on Jan 5, 2014 4:05:37 GMT
It's obvious what the outcome of this fight would be:
Team Tyrannosaurids would just start eating each other (as that's what tyrannosaurids and rival predators in general do), while Team Ceratopsians would probably just graze at a distance from each other. T.rex proper would be the last one standing do to its huge size advantage over its teammates, and then be left taking on all four ceratopsians by itself, who would all overpower it. Then the ceratopsians would feast on the countless tyrannosaurid bodies for an extra helping of protein, and REVENGE!  |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 5, 2014 10:31:57 GMT
T. rex vs Triceratops: 50/50
Tarbosaurus vs Pachyrhinosaurus: 50/50 or that Pachyrhinosaurus wins
Centrosaurus vs Daspletosaurus: Centrosaurus wins
Bistahieversor vs Medusaceratops: Bistahieversor wins
Either its 50/50 or that the Ceratopsians wins
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 5, 2014 10:36:40 GMT
Tyrannosaurus VS Triceratops: Triceratops wins
Tarbosaurus VS Pachyrhinosaurus: Pachyrhinosaurus wins
Centrosaurus VS Daspletosaurus: Centrosaurus wins
Bistahieversor VS Medusaceratops: Bistahieversor wins
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 15:12:03 GMT
I wouldn't be so sure. Other than the formidable horn, Centrosaurus had no other weapons. Triceratops had two horns that could be used so that's already an advantage. Daspletosauurs could pretty much go for any other part of Centrosaurus, it was pretty vulnerable. Ceratopsians over all have a disadvantage here which is their generally vulnerable, unprotected body, that is another reason I am giving it to Tyrannosauridae. even if daspletosaurus happened to get to its side, centrosaurus could actually just turn as well and is capable of keeping that horn facing daspletosaurus, making it really hard for das to inflict any major damage without getting stabbed by that horn. if daspletosaurus managed to get behind and bit the centrosaurus on the neck, then it can win, but i don't see that happening the majority of the time. I can easily see the Daspletosaurus handling Centrosaurus properly, it has a much more agile figure than the more robust ceratopsian especially designed for brute force. The tyrannosaurid has a more agile figure for its size than the similarly sized ceratopsian since it is more gracile than its opponent which means it will be able to turn in less time than the ceratopsian thus proving my point that the Daspletosaurus can easily get in a posture that favours an attack to the ceratopsian's unprotected back. It is also evident that the tyrannosaurid has a more reliable weaponry on its side, Centrosaurus' horn is about as effective in combat as a Texas Longhorn. It must be used properly to deal any damage to the opponent.  It's also a very small horn which I believe that would not kill Daspletosaurus instantly. Centrosaurus can't just hit it with that horn and win, it is relatively small and curved downwards. My bet is that Centrosaurus would ram at Daspletosaurus insted of trying to stab it, but Daspletosaurus' agility would help it avoid those attacks as well as being able to attack the Ceratopsian. |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 15:21:39 GMT
Tyrannosaurus VS Triceratops: Triceratops wins Tarbosaurus VS Pachyrhinosaurus: Pachyrhinosaurus wins Centrosaurus VS Daspletosaurus: Centrosaurus wins Bistahieversor VS Medusaceratops: Bistahieversor wins I'll have to disagree here. Pachyrhinosauurs lacks enough weaponry to win that easily, it is highly stereoryped to say it wins because it's a ceratopsian since it doesn't have horns like Triceratops, in fact it was nearly defenceless.  It is very robust as well so it doesn't have that much of an agile figure like the tyrannosaurid has, which is another advantage. A ram from Pachyrhinosaurus could break bones, but how much can it rely on its agility? Tarbosaurus has a much more reliable weaponry, its biteforce can be much more relied on than Pachyrhinosaurus' non-horned skull. Tarbosaurus' agility would also favour an attack to its opponent's unprotected body. As for Centrosaurus, I'd give an edge to Daspletosaurus for similar reasons; Centrosaurus can't simply "stab" with its horn, it was slightly curved downwards and was pretty short, meaning it had to be used properly in combat. The ceratopsian's agility disadvantage compared to the much more agile tyrannosaurid is putting it down since it would be hard to get a good, fatal horn "stab". Note that a short horn like that is not killing a similar-sized dinosaur with one lucky stab that will most likely not hit a vital organ. |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 15:23:45 GMT
It's obvious what the outcome of this fight would be:
Team Tyrannosaurids would just start eating each other (as that's what tyrannosaurids and rival predators in general do), while Team Ceratopsians would probably just graze at a distance from each other. T.rex proper would be the last one standing do to its huge size advantage over its teammates, and then be left taking on all four ceratopsians by itself, who would all overpower it. Then the ceratopsians would feast on the countless tyrannosaurid bodies for an extra helping of protein, and REVENGE! Sounds much more realistic, although it does not suit the hypothetical conditions of this debate... |
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