Team Fight ~ Tyrannosaurids vs Ceratopsians

I don't see the point of that, in fact Pachyrhinosaurus did not have dangerous horns. Centrosaurus would stand a better chance, but this was not going to help that much:



This could work, but not that much. Centrosaurus doesn't have that much of an agile figure, it was not going to strike its opponent as easily as you guys think. Other than its relatively small horn, it was basically defenceless. Furthermore, lions, even in packs, are smaller than Cape Buffalo, which have horns. Still, lions are able to take cape buffalo down. I don't see how a tyrannosaurid can't kill a Centrosaurus which only has one horn and are at similar sizes.

Its short neck is not letting it stab with an ample impact range, it would require too much effort to do that and it would end up rearing up which is not something a 2 ton ceratopsian is gonna do in under 2 seconds. It is not a proper stabbing weapon since it is curved downwards, as the picture clearly shows. It is also a relatively small horn, and Centrosaurus does not show any physiological features that would let it stab properly with that horn. I do recognise its power; I just don't overpower it. Centrosaurus' horn is not the best weapon and I even compare its efficiency in combat to a Texas Longhorn, or even inferior to that, although still close. Look:



Those horns are not so combat effective, they are placed facing the animal's sides and the animal's not so long neck is not letting it do a powerful stab to the side using only neck muscles. It reminds me of Centrosaurus' weaponry which can also not be used as properly as you think, since it requires a lot of musculature to do a powerful stab to the opponent. Texas Longhorns are also very strong, but they cannot gore an opponent to death with ease. Centrosaurus' short horn with a curve downwards is also poorly effective since it requires lots of muscle, preparation and positioning so it can work. When fighting a much more agile bipedal creature with a more reliable weaponry that can be used and relied on in under a matter of seconds, I can't see how Centrosaurus is really going to win that easily as people think.

it is imo rather ridiculous that your comparing centrosaurus's horn to that of a texas longhorn.

if anything, a rhinoceros or a styracosaurus would be a much better comparison.

I am not comparing its appearence, but its efficiency in combat. I would suggest being a little more open-minded and reading the post again.

Except they have very little similarities in combat efficiency. Again a Rhino would be a much better analogy.

Do these have that much of a curvature?





I am not only comparing the horns themselves but how they can be used. The Texas Longhorn requires a lot of effort to strike its opponent when being still instead of chasing it. Both animals have short necks in comparison to their bodies, they can't just strike the opponent with their horns when they are not chasing the opponent. It requires a lot of muscle to move the neck that fast and with that much force. I hope you guys interprete it correctly now; The way the animal can use its horns has to do with its phisyology and anatomy as well, not just the way the horn looks. The Texas Longhorn is obviously unable of striking its opponent when it is standing right in front of him and goring it to death with the horns facing its sides. The same goes for the ceratopsian here, but instead of its horn facing the sides, it faces upwards. Still works the same way though, since both aren't designed to strike their opponent when it is right in front of them in that way which would break a bone probably around the neck. The point is that both of them don't have that much of a neck mobility, neither of them can move the head and neck 90 degrees to the side. Their limitations are very similar to me, and the way I am comparing them goes much more ahead of the horn shape thing.

I am not denying the Rhinoceros' similarity with Centrosaurus; In fact, they are much more similar than what I have suggested. Still, I have explained why Texas Longhorns and Centrosaurus are much more similar than you guys may think at first.