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Post by Theropod on Dec 15, 2014 3:10:14 GMT
He doesn't have an article as far as I know, he just mentioned 6-7 tons as a very likely conclusion to the upcoming paper. It sounds very plausible, after all, and other paleontologists also agree on this estimate.
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Post by Carnage on Dec 17, 2014 18:20:27 GMT
This new Spinosaurus is gonna take a good beating
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Post by Theropod on Dec 23, 2014 16:59:28 GMT
themechabaryonyx789He could've been referring to the mere fact it has superior binocular vision. Nonetheless, binocular vision is observed in most predatory animals, and it likely isn't any sort of advantage at all. It was actually highly specialised. Also, being larger as a predator does not always equate into hunting larger prey.What competition? They would not need to compete too much over prey, and territorial fights rarely prove lethal to one of both fighters. It's a very specialised theropod, it won't face that much competition.They really have hardly any effect on a theropod more or less the same size. Plus, the arm is not really designed for the kind of use you're ellucidating.If any damage is caused to it, it can be considered a threat, even if not necessarily lethal. It isn't because there are any major organs there, but rather because severe infections can happen.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 23, 2014 17:41:44 GMT
'It was actually highly specialised'- Taken from Scott Hartman's article called 'There's something a bit fishy with the new Spinosaurus': 'the paper by Ibrahim et al. musters a wide range of evidence from bone density, isotope data, facial innervation, osteology, etc., to suggest that Spinosaurus not only was a fish-eater (i.e. piscivorous) but was adaptive to that lifestyle to a greater degree than other known spinosaurids.' I suppose you're correct there, I actually misinterpreted the article originally and assumed it meant that Spinoaurus had a broader horizon when it came to hunting prey when compared with other Spinosaurids'. 'Also, being larger as a predator does not necessarily equate into hunting larger prey'- I wasn't really referring to general animals but it may of came across like that. Spinosaurus already hunts relatively large prey in its aquatic diet, so there is no reason to assume it couldn't of hunted larger prey which is land-based as well. 'What competition'- this relates back to how I misinterpreted Hartman's post on how specialised Spinosaurus is, I now realise there probably wouldn't be much competition between the two large theropods as a whole. 'They really have hardly any effect on a animal of the same size'- if we are using the original Spinosaurus mode they certainly would pose much threat, they are very large proportionally and individually and would be high enough to cause decent amounts of damage to some of Carcharodontosaurus' vulnerable upper areas, eg. the neck. The curvature of the claws would of made them very useful for gripping onto flesh and tearing through once firmly enough inflicted, they were different to the typical serrated claws of most theropods, but could of still been used to combat animals other than its prey. However if we are talking about the new Spinosaurus model, they would be rendered useless due to the height differences between the two animals.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 23, 2014 17:52:26 GMT
themechabaryonyx789Ah, alright. Still, however, the aquatic animals it preyed on were not as large. Also, since it is semi-aquatic, I think it's fair to assume it wouldn't go too often for land-dwelling prey.Alright.We are not using it, since it is outdated.Proportionately? I think you meant absolute terms, not proportional terms. Not that important though. I don't think they would pose that much of a threat (even for the old model), seeing as the arms are actually lower than the opponent's neck, and theropod arms move laterally, not frontally.They don't seem very effective for something weighing 8 tons or so, and I think both animals would rather rely on their jaws, which can imply greater forces without as much effort.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 23, 2014 18:07:06 GMT
themechabaryonyx789Ah, alright. Still, however, the aquatic animals it preyed on were not as large. Also, since it is semi-aquatic, I think it's fair to assume it wouldn't go too often for land-dwelling prey.Alright.We are not using it, since it is outdated.Proportionately? I think you meant absolute terms, not proportional terms. Not that important though. I don't think they would pose that much of a threat (even for the old model), seeing as the arms are actually lower than the opponent's neck, and theropod arms move laterally, not frontally.They don't seem very effective for something weighing 8 tons or so, and I think both animals would rather rely on their jaws, which can imply greater forces without as much effort. I meant both proportionally and in absolute terms, I couldn't think of a convicing way to word it, so I said 'individually' instead. They would probably pose quite a big threat to the opponent's underside/lower back even if they moved laterally, but the areas would have to be in closer proximity to Spinosaurus' claws. But enough about that as the original model isn't relevant here.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 23, 2014 18:14:31 GMT
themechabaryonyx789You're picturing a titanic Spinosaurus aegyptiacus here. Its arms were actually nearer the ground than that, and even then, the laterally-moving arms lower the possibility of really great damage to the adversary. I agree however that the old model is irrelevant. Also, am I the only one who's happy with this section getting more attention again?
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Post by SrSpinelli on Dec 23, 2014 22:22:44 GMT
you saying that this a creature made to eat fish can kill this? an monster made to fucking eat big herbivores?
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Post by Theropod on Dec 23, 2014 22:32:45 GMT
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Dec 23, 2014 22:35:14 GMT
t-rex on land, spinosaurus in water. nuff said
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Post by es1001 on Dec 24, 2014 3:40:50 GMT
With the new Spinosaurus size estimates, it is clear that Tyrannosaurus is the victor. I guess, after all the nonsense since Jurassic Park 3, most people can finally decide on a winner? Hopefully no more Trex or Spino fanboy comment spam on YouTube!
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 24, 2014 10:00:37 GMT
you saying that this a creature made to eat fish can kill this? an monster made to fucking eat big herbivores? Another typical case of Spinosaurid bias, but I'm not going to dwell into why as its fairly obvious. Anyways I agree with spinosaurus1, Tyrannosaurus wins on land due to its sheer size/height advantage, but Spinosaurus wins on water due to its superior adaptions for aquatic
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 24, 2014 10:01:05 GMT
*aquatic life ffs
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Post by parasaurolophus on Dec 24, 2014 12:52:07 GMT
T-rex wins on land while spino wins in water.
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Post by 2pac on Dec 24, 2014 14:08:38 GMT
It depends on how deep it is, but I assume you're referring to "deep enough". And es1001, unfortunately, that's not going to work. People are still misinformed, and trust me, even when faced with this evidence, it won't work.
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