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Post by Theropod on Jan 25, 2014 15:53:46 GMT
If you accurately scale Tyrannotitan using Giganotosaurus, you will come up with around 12.7 metres and 5-6 tonnes for Tyrannotitan. Tyrannosaurus, if we are using Sue, is 12.3 metres and 8.4 tonnes. Tyrannosaurus still has a size advantage, and that is why is takes this win. Also, because they are evenly sized, Tyrannosaurus superior bite would have been another big advantage. Tyrannotitan did have a larger gape though. Show me your isometric scaling calculations if possible. FMNH PR 2081 is a particularly large specimen, so this is only fair if you are saying 5-6 tons is Tyrannotitan's mazimum mass, which I highly doubt is true. The biteforce doesn't help the tyrannosaurid; The carcharodontosaurid's weaker biting power is compensated by its larger gape. This fight is much more even than that.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 25, 2014 15:56:07 GMT
Tyrannotitan is bulkier than Giganotosaurus... I didn't say it wasn't? I simply said that if you use other Giganotosaur remains to reconstruct Tyrannotitan properly, you get around 12.5-7 metres and 6 tonnes. Giganotosaurus is only around 6 tonnes as well, so it fits well.You can't scale those two isometrically totally properly, they have a difference in robustness so scaling won't work properly. Still, it is more proper to scale Tyrannotitan chubutensis from Giganotosaurus carolinii rather than others such as Carcharodontosaurus saharicus, since Tyrannotitan and Giganotosaurus are more closely related.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 16:44:04 GMT
really don't know on this one...
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Post by Theropod on Jan 28, 2014 19:14:00 GMT
Giganotosaurus is more like 7-8 tons actually. If you Google 'Giganotosaurus Weight' nearly every source put Giganotosaurus at 6.5 tonnes. This is around the same size I mentioned Tyrannotitan to be. And even if Tyrannotitan was a lot bulkier, at about 7 tonnes, Tyrannosaurus is still more than a whole ton ahead. 1. Look for dates. Many of those sources base on the same estimate. 2. This size advantage you are suggesting doesn't make it a full mismatch or anything one-sided.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 29, 2014 17:00:08 GMT
Not only that but estimates for Tyrannotitan range from 11-13 metres long which could make it as big as sue
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 29, 2014 17:05:30 GMT
Not only that but estimates for Tyrannotitan range from 11-13 metres long which could make it as big as sue Maybe bigger
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Post by Carnage on Dec 17, 2014 19:31:13 GMT
I know those posts are old but seriously, irrelevant size advantage, Tyrannosaurus makes up for that with a very likely stronger bite. Tyrannosaurus wins by a very slight margin
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Post by 2pac on Dec 18, 2014 14:52:21 GMT
Sue could have been about a ton lighter, the density used by Hartman is a bit too high, if we scale Tyrannotitan from related species we also get something more or less the size of Sue, I don't think the size difference here is even worth mentioning. And about Tyrannosaurus's gape, the craniomandibular angle wasn't very wide, though it is wide enough here. We could try using trigonometry.
Gape = jaw length/sin((180-gapeangle)/2)×sin(gapeangle)
An angle of 60° and a jaw lenght of 1.4m, you get 140cm, though it's worth noting that it probably didn't open its mouth that wide, crocodiles for example do not usually go beyond 40°, so that gives 96cm, which is actually enough to bite an entire torso.
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Post by AdianPC on Mar 14, 2015 21:17:32 GMT
T-rex wins
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Post by parasaurolophus on Mar 15, 2015 0:37:14 GMT
I say T-rex wins.
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Post by moustache on Nov 28, 2015 20:51:20 GMT
Tyrannotitan likely reached the size of Giganotosaurus, so 12~13 m and 5~8 t.
I think this is a 50/50.
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