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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 8, 2014 23:27:08 GMT
If you took a spinosaurid that naturally grew to the size of a jaguar, the latter should win without too much trouble, it's clearly more adapted to similar-sized opponents. If you took a megalosaurid or carnosaur against a cat at parity (and it appears some of the aformentioned theropods naturally grow to their size), it'll be close. (I known his post is old) That factor doesn't play much of a role in this, a jaguar would probably destroy the majority of therepods at size parity, issues with scaling/mass give the feline far too much of an advantage. |
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Post by MatromX on Dec 9, 2014 20:31:27 GMT
What? sorry... i dont understand...   how can a jaguar killing one baryonyx? (i like jaguar, i only don't understand) |
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Post by Theropod on Dec 9, 2014 22:28:02 GMT
Also, that size comparison, is overall, inaccurate.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 9, 2014 22:52:48 GMT
Where did 8.5 metres for Baryonyx come from? Most estimates I've heard put the immature specimen at roughly 9.5 metres in length (possibly Hartman).
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Post by Theropod on Dec 9, 2014 23:34:01 GMT
That scale doesn't measure it along the dorsal line. Measuring it that way, it actually is around that length. However, the model itself is still very inaccurate, e.g., exaggerated length/heigh ratio.
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Post by MatromX on Dec 10, 2014 3:47:38 GMT
but... i cant understaaand!
baryonyx is taller, long, and have more weapons than jaguar!
why can a jaguar kill a baryonyx?
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 10, 2014 7:45:49 GMT
They are at mass/size parity with a weight of 150 kg.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 10, 2014 13:32:47 GMT
but... i cant understaaand! baryonyx is taller, long, and have more weapons than jaguar! why can a jaguar kill a baryonyx? Again, this is at parity. The dictionary defines it as "the state or condition of being equal", they're the same size in this case. |
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Post by MatromX on Dec 10, 2014 15:06:12 GMT
but... i cant understaaand! baryonyx is taller, long, and have more weapons than jaguar! why can a jaguar kill a baryonyx? Again, this is at parity. The dictionary defines it as "the state or condition of being equal", they're the same size in this case. HAHAAHAAHAHAH sorry man, i dont see these word :v :v , i understand *bad english* ... |
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Post by Theropod on Dec 10, 2014 17:59:32 GMT
Again, this is at parity. The dictionary defines it as "the state or condition of being equal", they're the same size in this case. HAHAAHAAHAHAH sorry man, i dont see these word :v :v , i understand *bad english* ... It's alright dude. |
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Post by Carnage on Dec 17, 2014 19:35:13 GMT
Jaguar wins comfortably
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Post by Ausar on Dec 19, 2014 3:24:11 GMT
If you took a spinosaurid that naturally grew to the size of a jaguar, the latter should win without too much trouble, it's clearly more adapted to similar-sized opponents. If you took a megalosaurid or carnosaur against a cat at parity (and it appears some of the aformentioned theropods naturally grow to their size), it'll be close. (I known his post is old) That factor doesn't play much of a role in this, a jaguar would probably destroy the majority of therepods at size parity, issues with scaling/mass give the feline far too much of an advantage. Might be late on this but, no, a jaguar would not "destroy" most theropods (at least the macrophagous ones with good weapons) at size parity. That's retarded. "Issues with scaling/mass"? Huh? If you scale a (very, very substantially, say, Tyrannosaurus) larger theropod down to a big cat's mass, it'd be the scaled-down bigger animal (ie. the theropod) winning. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 19, 2014 7:52:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure that if you scale massive animals down to less than 5% of their own body weight, their agility will be affected greatly (how exactly I am unsure). Also the jaguar is particularly strong/robust for its size, unlike theropods which although strong for their own size, simply cannot much the pound for pound strength of a jaguar, it is a much smaller animal and the square cube law allows smaller animals to be more compact whereas larger animals must have less centred/more spread out levels of proportional muscle mass simply due to their size.
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Post by 2pac on Dec 19, 2014 23:34:14 GMT
This Baryonyx is ~3.7m, if we do not take allometry into account then its agility and proportional strength would be increased by 550%, while the jaguar would be more or less the same. That is because we are scaling it down, its muscles are getting increased cross section area in comparison to the volume, rather than the opposite.
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Post by Ausar on Dec 30, 2014 4:17:25 GMT
^You got it. Scale a bigger animal down, it severely outmatches animals that are actually in that weight range in terms of strength, not the other way around.
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