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Post by thesporerex on Mar 26, 2014 18:44:05 GMT
It should say felid
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Post by Theropod on Mar 26, 2014 21:39:29 GMT
I would say probably dromaosaurids, felids vary a lot so unless we go by the best felids in grappling then I say dromaeosaurids.
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Post by Angilasuruda on Apr 4, 2014 1:56:26 GMT
Felines. They are extremely strong and fast creatures, and can leap swiftly. They have sharp claws to use and attack with. Those qualities suit pantherines better. Felines aren't really the greatest grapplers of all felids, Cougars are probaly the best grapplers of the Felinae. All pantherines are better at grappling than nearly all felines. Panthera, Uncia and Neofelis are the only three genus in the Pantherinae, and they sure are better grapplers than those in genuses of the Felinae, like Felis and Pardofelis.lol post was from a couple months ago but whatever |
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Post by mechafire on Apr 4, 2014 15:19:32 GMT
I would say probably dromaosaurids, felids vary a lot so unless we go by the best felids in grappling then I say dromaeosaurids. Dromaeosaurids' grappling ability have been greatly overrated as of late. They are good for a dinosaur, but against mammals like bears and cats, they are outmatched. They have shorter arms than cats or bears, their humerus (and really their arm overall) looks thinner, less robust, and likely not as heavily muscled. I don't see how they can have as high an amount of shoulder strength or muscle. They have that longer neck. I doubt their abdominal strength or flexibility. I still think bears are superior when it comes to grappling. They large arms and shoulder strength (from the hump) gives them extreme upper body strength, and their plantigrade feet, and high abdominal strength gives it exception balance ans stability. |
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Post by vodmeister on Apr 19, 2014 4:52:17 GMT
Even though I am a feline fan, I'm inclined to vote for the bear on this one. Their forequarters are more flexible than those of similar sized panthera, they also have superior balance (can stand bipedal easily), greater stability (wider body), and a lower center of gravity. In terms of raw grappling ability, bears take the cake.
Primates aren't such a bad choice either, actually. Not only do we have very long and flexible arms, but more importantly, our digits and opposable thumbs give us a distinct grip advantage over any other animal. However, pound for pound, long arms might not be as strong as short arms (uncertain about this), so primates lose out in that respect.
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Post by Theropod on Apr 19, 2014 14:05:26 GMT
Good point, although I would say primates aren't overall the greatest when it comes to combat grappling, felids, canids, ursids and others outclass them in that aspect.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on May 3, 2014 2:57:36 GMT
I would say probably dromaosaurids, felids vary a lot so unless we go by the best felids in grappling then I say dromaeosaurids. Dromaeosaurids' grappling ability have been greatly overrated as of late. They are good for a dinosaur, but against mammals like bears and cats, they are outmatched. They have shorter arms than cats or bears, their humerus (and really their arm overall) looks thinner, less robust, and likely not as heavily muscled. I don't see how they can have as high an amount of shoulder strength or muscle. They have that longer neck. I doubt their abdominal strength or flexibility. I still think bears are superior when it comes to grappling. They large arms and shoulder strength (from the hump) gives them extreme upper body strength, and their plantigrade feet, and high abdominal strength gives it exception balance ans stability. everything you said is completly untrue. dromaeosaur fore arms had an impressive feild of locomotion.  as well as capabilities to extend their arms behond their heads and neck, same with any other urisine or feline. and i sugest for you to learn more on the anatomy of dromaeosaur limbs. your rellyng stricktly on visuals, bad ones. possibly from really bad reconstructions when in actuality thier fore arms are actually compatible in robustness as their hind limbs.  dromaeosaurs femurs are no smaller in diameter then a feline or pantherine at parity, and with some larger dromaeosaurs femur diameter( ex:achillobator) are actually larger then most large extant carnivorian mammal at parity. might i add that dromaeosaurs also owned not one, but 2 pairs of grappling limbs. the feet on the hind limbs also show extream dextarity with the toe degits, meaning that droms would have had double the capability to restrain their prey compared to felines now for the subject at hand, i would say that bears had some of the most impressive grappling degree compared to most carnivors. i say dromaeosaurids, megantereon, or pantherines follow a close second |
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Post by mechafire on May 6, 2014 4:41:39 GMT
Dromaeosaurids' grappling ability have been greatly overrated as of late. They are good for a dinosaur, but against mammals like bears and cats, they are outmatched. They have shorter arms than cats or bears, their humerus (and really their arm overall) looks thinner, less robust, and likely not as heavily muscled. I don't see how they can have as high an amount of shoulder strength or muscle. They have that longer neck. I doubt their abdominal strength or flexibility. I still think bears are superior when it comes to grappling. They large arms and shoulder strength (from the hump) gives them extreme upper body strength, and their plantigrade feet, and high abdominal strength gives it exception balance ans stability. everything you said is completly untrue. dromaeosaur fore arms had an impressive feild of locomotion. as well as capabilities to extend their arms behond their heads and neck, same with any other urisine or feline. and i sugest for you to learn more on the anatomy of dromaeosaur limbs. your rellyng stricktly on visuals, bad ones. possibly from really bad reconstructions when in actuality thier fore arms are actually compatible in robustness as their hind limbs. dromaeosaurs femurs are no smaller in diameter then a feline or pantherine at parity, and with some larger dromaeosaurs femur diameter( ex:achillobator) are actually larger then most large extant carnivorian mammal at parity. might i add that dromaeosaurs also owned not one, but 2 pairs of grappling limbs. the feet on the hind limbs also show extream dextarity with the toe degits, meaning that droms would have had double the capability to restrain their prey compared to felines now for the subject at hand, i would say that bears had some of the most impressive grappling degree compared to most carnivors. i say dromaeosaurids, megantereon, or pantherines follow a close second "everything you said is completly untrue. dromaeosaur fore arms had an impressive feild of locomotion." I never doubted that. "might i add that dromaeosaurs also owned not one, but 2 pairs of grappling limbs. the feet on the hind limbs also show extream dextarity with the toe degits, meaning that droms would have had double the capability to restrain their prey compared to felines " Felines have back legs too. With claws that can be used to grip and restrain prey. Also if you are trying to drag something down, you would obvious need to have a vertical base i.e standing on their back legs. |
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Post by spinosaurus1 on May 6, 2014 5:26:27 GMT
um, cat claws verses drom claws. even without counting the sickle claws, i'm gonna have to go with the drom due to the fact that thier undoubtably the better weapondry and better at clenthing prey. and do realize dromaeosaurs had even thicker and possibly stronger back legs then felines right? it makes sence due to the fact that their main killing weapon is on it and the very feet themselves are capable of grappling and crushing it's victems similarly to eagles just as the forarms. also note that dromaeosaur femoral curcumference can nearly double the width of a similarly sized feline/ pantherine. heres another image made by blaze. not to scale.  dienonychus humerus was compatible in rubustness to a large pantherine. i seriously doubt droms or felines/pantherines were better then one another in grappling |
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Post by Angilasuruda on May 9, 2014 2:32:49 GMT
Felines. They are extremely strong and fast creatures, and can leap swiftly. They have sharp claws to use and attack with. omg wtf. I hate this post so much! I feel as if some maniac wrote it and thought to put FELINES on it. For this aspect, I'm changing my opinion to ursids/bears. |
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