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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Dec 8, 2013 0:18:33 GMT
Epanterias amplexus
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Post by Lmpkio on Dec 8, 2013 0:21:59 GMT
You do know that Epanterias is just a bigger version of Allosaurus right?
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Dec 8, 2013 0:34:33 GMT
You do know that Epanterias is just a bigger version of Allosaurus right? i would rather consider epanterias as its own species, its remains are found in layers that are 4 million years younger than any allosaurus. |
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Post by Lmpkio on Dec 8, 2013 0:36:03 GMT
You do know that Epanterias is just a bigger version of Allosaurus right? i would rather consider epanterias as its own species, its remains are found in layers that are 4 million years younger than any allosaurus. Ok then... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 0:38:30 GMT
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 8, 2013 0:49:13 GMT
Oxlaia wins due to its two ton size and strength advantage.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 8, 2013 0:53:54 GMT
You do know that Epanterias is just a bigger version of Allosaurus right? i would rather consider epanterias as its own species, its remains are found in layers that are 4 million years younger than any allosaurus. Wasn't it 4 million years older? also saurophaganax was in the same temporal range so epanterias could be a big saurophaganax aswell. |
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 8, 2013 0:55:29 GMT
If we use the hypothetical epanterias, then it would win. Its a ton lighter but its weaponry is far superior and I would normally back Carnosaurs against Spinosaurids at parity.
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Dec 8, 2013 1:36:14 GMT
i would rather consider epanterias as its own species, its remains are found in layers that are 4 million years younger than any allosaurus. Wasn't it 4 million years older? also saurophaganax was in the same temporal range so epanterias could be a big saurophaganax aswell. no it's actually younger. epanterias lived 146 mya, allosaurus was from 150 mya. anyways, i too favour epanterias on this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 1:49:51 GMT
Epanterias is a species genus.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 8, 2013 8:42:45 GMT
If we use the hypothetical epanterias, then it would win. Its a ton lighter but its weaponry is far superior and I would normally back Carnosaurs against Spinosaurids at parity. Epanterias isn't just a ton lighter, its two tons lighter. And these animals aren't at parity, Epanterias was only 11 metres in length and Oxlaia was 12 metres in length. |
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Dec 8, 2013 14:28:12 GMT
epanterias was also 12 m. you must be thinking about saurophaganax.
and i don't see how a spinosaurid should be 2 tons heavier than an allosaurid of equal length.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 8, 2013 18:10:54 GMT
Epanterias is about 5.5 tons while oxalaia is about 6 tons, 500kg difference won't make much of a difference. Not only that the allosaurid has far superior weaponry and is far more agile.
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Dec 8, 2013 18:28:15 GMT
Epanterias is about 5.5 tons while oxalaia is about 6 tons, 500kg difference won't make much of a difference. Not only that the allosaurid has far superior weaponry and is far more agile. Epanterias is more like 5 tons, so its a ton difference. Also neither theropod was particularly agile because both were above 4 tons in weight. You say that Epanterias had 'far superior weaponry' when the only useful weapon Epanterias had was its devastating hatchet bite. Epanterias' claws were not particularly powerful and would not be useful as a weapon. Oxlaia's claws on the other hand were much larger and potent, and Oxlaia was stronger overall due to its weight advantage. Epanterias might of had a devastating hatchet bite but that would be fairly easy to avoid because Epanterias would take a certain amount of time to perform the entire hatchet action with its jaw. Oxlaia on the other hand had a much quicker method of biting, and Oxlaia could grasp Epanterias with its jaws and latch on for a fairly long time (despite having a weak bite force, Oxlaia's bite was very useful for gripping and impaling). |
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Dec 8, 2013 18:32:15 GMT
since when were allosaurid claws not particularly powerful?
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