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Post by Monolophosaurus on Jul 12, 2014 22:21:32 GMT
Australovenator. Hes larger, stronger, has far more lethal claws. This might be a mismatch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 22:45:18 GMT
Australovenator. Hes larger, stronger, has far more lethal claws. This might be a mismatch. thesporerex requested this
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Jul 12, 2014 22:50:17 GMT
first, ceratosaurus nasicornis is not 1 ton. at most a 6 meter ceratosaurus would only be about 500 kgs. but, being that ceratosaurus nasicornis is a young individual and is a synonymous taxon with ceratosaurus dentisulactus, the ceratosaurus would win the majority
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Post by Theropod on Jul 12, 2014 23:37:41 GMT
Ceratosaurus nasicornis is not a juvenile synonym of Ceratosaurus dentisulcatus. There is a hypothesis, however, that both are synonymous with eachother, but it's not certain.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Jul 13, 2014 0:20:53 GMT
carrano el al.(2012) Two of the new adult specimens have been designated as holotypes of new species, C. dentisulcatus (UMNH VP 5278) and C. magnicornis (MWC 1.1) (Madsen & Welles 2000). However, the purported diagnostic characters of these two species are based almost entirely on proportional differences that are probably attributable to individual and/or ontogenetic variation; many can be specifically attributed to differences in body size. For example, C. magnicornis is supposedly distinguished from C. nasicornis by its ‘more massive’ lac- rimal, dentary and ventral part of the quadratojugal, all of which may simply be the result of allometric scaling. Like- wise, C. dentisulcatus is distinguished by its ‘more massive’ premaxilla, maxilla, dentary, teeth and tibia – all of which might again be due to allometry. Other diagnostic charac- ters relate only to the absolute size of elements, which in larger individuals cannot be interpreted to have systematic meaning. Finally, the genotype specimen of C. nasicornis is an overly fused and pathological individual; some of its features should be interpreted with caution. Accordingly, we agree with Rauhut (2003) that only one species of Cerato- saurus can be documented in the Morrison Formation. A femur and tibia from the Late Jurassic of Rodela do Volmita ?o, near Lourinha ?, Portugal have also been referred to Ceratosaurus, along with isolated teeth from other localities (Mateus & Antunes 2000; Antunes & Mateus 2003; Mateus et al. 2006). The tibia apparently more closely resembles that of C. dentisulcatus than C. nasicornis (Mateus & Antunes 2000; Antunes & Mateus 2003; Mateus et al. 2006). How- ever, the supposed similarities are with distorted features of the right tibia of C. dentisulcatus; the left tibia of the same in- dividual is identical to those of other Ceratosaurus ‘species’. Thus we refer to the Portuguese specimen as Ceratosaurus sp. or Ceratosaurus cf. nasicornis.
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Post by Theropod on Jul 13, 2014 0:58:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing! I didn't really know that, I used to see the hypothesis more like a possibility, but the fact that the genotype specimen of Ceratosaurus nasicornis is overly fused just makes the hypothesis seem more like a fact actually.
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Post by Monolophosaurus on Jul 14, 2014 0:23:20 GMT
carrano el al.(2012) Two of the new adult specimens have been designated as holotypes of new species, C. dentisulcatus (UMNH VP 5278) and C. magnicornis (MWC 1.1) (Madsen & Welles 2000). However, the purported diagnostic characters of these two species are based almost entirely on proportional differences that are probably attributable to individual and/or ontogenetic variation; many can be specifically attributed to differences in body size. For example, C. magnicornis is supposedly distinguished from C. nasicornis by its ‘more massive’ lac- rimal, dentary and ventral part of the quadratojugal, all of which may simply be the result of allometric scaling. Like- wise, C. dentisulcatus is distinguished by its ‘more massive’ premaxilla, maxilla, dentary, teeth and tibia – all of which might again be due to allometry. Other diagnostic charac- ters relate only to the absolute size of elements, which in larger individuals cannot be interpreted to have systematic meaning. Finally, the genotype specimen of C. nasicornis is an overly fused and pathological individual; some of its features should be interpreted with caution. Accordingly, we agree with Rauhut (2003) that only one species of Cerato- saurus can be documented in the Morrison Formation. A femur and tibia from the Late Jurassic of Rodela do Volmita ?o, near Lourinha ?, Portugal have also been referred to Ceratosaurus, along with isolated teeth from other localities (Mateus & Antunes 2000; Antunes & Mateus 2003; Mateus et al. 2006). The tibia apparently more closely resembles that of C. dentisulcatus than C. nasicornis (Mateus & Antunes 2000; Antunes & Mateus 2003; Mateus et al. 2006). How- ever, the supposed similarities are with distorted features of the right tibia of C. dentisulcatus; the left tibia of the same in- dividual is identical to those of other Ceratosaurus ‘species’. Thus we refer to the Portuguese specimen as Ceratosaurus sp. or Ceratosaurus cf. nasicornis. I suppose, if this is proven fact, then Ceratosaurus would win, but I still have reasons to believe otherwise, but I change my vote to Ceratosaurus.
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Post by spinosaurus1 on Jul 14, 2014 0:53:12 GMT
please, give reasons for you to dispute this. this quote was from a scientific study conducted on the specimens listed in it. age related dimorphism is not an unheard biomachanic in nature. even birds and other reptiles go through such changes.
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Post by Monolophosaurus on Jul 14, 2014 12:50:09 GMT
please, give reasons for you to dispute this. this quote was from a scientific study conducted on the specimens listed in it. age related dimorphism is not an unheard biomachanic in nature. even birds and other reptiles go through such changes. Im not disputing the study LOL, just the battle. Australovenator still has some dangerous claws.
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Post by Theropod on Jul 14, 2014 13:35:29 GMT
Claws aren't the deadliest weaponry out there, many extant predators do not use them with any intent to kill. In predator battles, both huge size disparity and jaws > claws.
Moreover, it's almost fact that Ceratosaurus nasicornis is a juvenile synonym of Ceratosaurus dentisulcatus, given that the genotype specimen is overly fused.
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Post by Carnage on Dec 17, 2014 19:03:51 GMT
yup, Ceratosaurus wins
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Post by AdianPC on Mar 15, 2015 17:42:08 GMT
I dont know, maybe ceratosaurus?
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Post by parasaurolophus on Mar 15, 2015 18:38:03 GMT
I think Ceratosaurus gots this.
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Post by SrSpinelli on Mar 15, 2015 18:47:48 GMT
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