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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 6, 2014 22:21:39 GMT
Siats meekerorum: 12 metres in length and 5+ tons  Allosaurus amplexus: 12 metres in length and 5-5.5 ton  |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 6, 2014 22:28:02 GMT
I would say around 50/50. Allosaurus might be slightly bulkier and larger at parity, but not enough to give it a real advantage. I'm not sure if Neovenatorids would have stronger bite forces than Allosaurids at parity, but I assume they would be pretty similar. They both had very agile builds.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 6, 2014 22:35:31 GMT
Siats meekerorum probably had a stronger biteforce, in fact most theropods have stronger bites than Allosaurus at parity/pound by pound. Biteforce is the main factor here. Both have relatively long arms, but they cannot use those claws properly in combat at most situations, since that would mean doing a quite extreme back curvature upwards. The back vertebrae however, do not make this curvature possible. Both have kinda agile figures, but I believe S. meekerorum wins this.
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 6, 2014 23:10:39 GMT
toss up imo, both are pretty damn similar.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 7, 2014 0:03:30 GMT
Siats meekerorum apparently has the biteforce advantage, however...
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 7, 2014 0:29:43 GMT
Siats meekerorum apparently has the biteforce advantage, however... how do you know that? now don't just say because allosaurids had really weak bites.... |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 7, 2014 1:29:45 GMT
Siats meekerorum apparently has the biteforce advantage, however... how do you know that? now don't just say because allosaurids had really weak bites.... Based on the holotype skull, it apparently has a skull more well-desgined for a strong bite than Allosaurus, and because it is very likely that a random theropod will have a strongeer bite at parity with Allosaurus... A bit speculative, but that's it, based on what its skull should have looked like. Also, look at that Allosaurus skull on the skeletal in the OP... |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 7, 2014 10:34:00 GMT
Baseless assumption, not only that Allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite force it can slice its prey open and use a hatchet bite. Also you used a picture for neovenator not Siats
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 7, 2014 16:19:29 GMT
Baseless assumption, not only that Allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite force it can slice its prey open and use a hatchet bite. Also you used a picture for neovenator not Siats I'm pretty sure its a Siats. I also don't think an animal with a 1/2 ton bite force would need a hatchet bite to cause severe injury. |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 7, 2014 16:23:56 GMT
Baseless assumption, not only that Allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite force it can slice its prey open and use a hatchet bite. Also you used a picture for neovenator not Siats I'm pretty sure its a Siats. I also don't think an animal with a 1/2 ton bite force would need a hatchet bite to cause severe injury. Trust me its a neovenator, and those smaller ones are eotyrannus. And the carcass is a iguanodon. You can even tell. As for the other statement crocodiles have powerful bites but they still do the death roll. Not only that 0.5 ton bite is still weak for its size and as I said before allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite jesus christ. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 7, 2014 16:32:57 GMT
I'm pretty sure its a Siats. I also don't think an animal with a 1/2 ton bite force would need a hatchet bite to cause severe injury. Trust me its a neovenator, and those smaller ones are eotyrannus. And the carcass is a iguanodon. You can even tell. As for the other statement crocodiles have powerful bites but they still do the death roll. Not only that 0.5 ton bite is still weak for its size and as I said before allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite jesus christ. Its an Eolambia, not an Iguanodon. The image depicts a Siats eating an Eolambia, not a Neovenator eating an Iguanodon. Neovenator is not larger than Iguanodon. |
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Post by DJ Spinosaurus on Jan 7, 2014 16:53:24 GMT
I think Siats he had the stronger bite and was prbly larger
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Post by Theropod on Jan 8, 2014 1:01:59 GMT
Trust me its a neovenator, and those smaller ones are eotyrannus. And the carcass is a iguanodon. You can even tell. As for the other statement crocodiles have powerful bites but they still do the death roll. Not only that 0.5 ton bite is still weak for its size and as I said before allosaurus doesn't need a powerful bite jesus christ. Its an Eolambia, not an Iguanodon. The image depicts a Siats eating an Eolambia, not a Neovenator eating an Iguanodon. Neovenator is not larger than Iguanodon. The artist himself said it is Neovenator which he changed to Siats. |
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Post by mrirongolem27 on Aug 22, 2014 3:47:44 GMT
You kidding? SIATS? No. Allosaurus amplexus takes this
1. Bigger (40+ feet vs 35+ feet)
2. Hatchet thingy
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