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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 3, 2014 20:38:23 GMT
This Neovenator is the upper size range: 7.5 metres in length and 1.5 tons  It will face off against these various opponents in different rounds, how far can it get? Round 1: Neovenator VS Lythronax Lythronax: 7 metres in length and 1 ton Round 2: Neovenator VS Allosaurus (Big Al) Big Al: 7.5 metres in length and 1+ tons Round 3: Neovenator VS Carnotaurus Carnotaurus: 8 metres in length and 2 tons Round 4: 2 Neovenator VS Allosaurus Allosaurus: 9 metres in length and 2+ tons Round 5: 3 Neovenator VS Baryonyx Baryonyx: 10 metres in length and 3 tons I know I have used these dinosaurs rather a lot in gauntlets, I will try to add more variation next gauntlet. |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 3, 2014 22:36:46 GMT
Stops at lythronax
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 3, 2014 22:39:56 GMT
Why would you think that? Neovenator is 50% larger than Lythronax and Neovenator has superior weaponry... |
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 3, 2014 22:44:20 GMT
Why would you think that? Neovenator is 50% larger than Lythronax and Neovenator has superior weaponry... Well one Neovenator doesn't have superior weaponry and two that Lythronax can probably reach neovenators weight because of its bulk and how barrel chested it is. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 3, 2014 22:53:12 GMT
  (The Lythronax is in the middle) Neovenator has much larger fore arms and a bite better suited for slashing and tearing. Lythronax only really has bite force and a bulk advantage. Attachments:
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Post by Allosaurus Rex on Jan 3, 2014 22:58:52 GMT
bite force and bulk are already quite advantages. and at same length lythronax would also be taller due to its longer legs.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 15:57:39 GMT
Let me explain this...
Round 1: Both are basically the same size, Neovenator is nowhere near 50% larger Mecha. In fact both are the same mass and Lythronax has the superior weaponry here. In fact, Lythronax's biteforce is superior and biteforce is by far much more useful than clawing your opponent. Neovenator's biteforce is not superior to Lythronax, it stops here.
But now if we ignored round 1, this is what we would get.
Round 2: 50/50 but Allosaurus will probably win.
Round 3: Total mismatch in favour of Carnotaurus, since it is much larger.
Round 4: 2 Neovenators would possibly take down an Allosaurus at maximum sizes, Allosaurus can't just kill a Neovenator in seconds before the other one attacks it. Plus the other Neovenator is not just gonna watch its teammate getting killed by its rival, they would probably take the Allosaurus down here. 2 Neovenators can handle Allosaurus.
Round 5: Once again, you are using a baseless estimate for Baryonyx. Just use the immature specimen for the time being. Either it being the immature specimen or your estimate, 3 Neovenators would handle it. The Neovenators win
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 5, 2014 16:34:54 GMT
Let me explain this... Round 1: Both are basically the same size, Neovenator is nowhere near 50% larger Mecha. In fact both are the same mass and Lythronax has the superior weaponry here. In fact, Lythronax's biteforce is superior and biteforce is by far much more useful than clawing your opponent. Neovenator's biteforce is not superior to Lythronax, it stops here. But now if we ignored round 1, this is what we would get. Round 2: 50/50 but Allosaurus will probably win. Round 3: Total mismatch in favour of Carnotaurus, since it is much larger. Round 4: 2 Neovenators would possibly take down an Allosaurus at maximum sizes, Allosaurus can't just kill a Neovenator in seconds before the other one attacks it. Plus the other Neovenator is not just gonna watch its teammate getting killed by its rival, they would probably take the Allosaurus down here. 2 Neovenators can handle Allosaurus. Round 5: Once again, you are using a baseless estimate for Baryonyx. Just use the immature specimen for the time being. Either it being the immature specimen or your estimate, 3 Neovenators would handle it. The Neovenators win 'Total mismatch in favour of Carnotaurus, since it is much larger.'  Using these estimates Carnotaurus is only 33% larger, which is not a massive advantage in this case. Neovenator has superior weaponry, and a much more agile figure. Carnotaurus only really has speed (which is not an advantage) and bulk on its side. 50/50, with perhaps a slight edge to Carnotaurus. By superior weaponry (talking about Neovenator VS Lythronax) I mean that Neovenator has more weaponry. I know Lythronax has a superior bite force. I would say perhaps 55/45 in favour of Lythronax for this fight. Tyrannosaurids are usually overrated in the biting department. |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 5, 2014 17:16:16 GMT
Let me explain this... Round 1: Both are basically the same size, Neovenator is nowhere near 50% larger Mecha. In fact both are the same mass and Lythronax has the superior weaponry here. In fact, Lythronax's biteforce is superior and biteforce is by far much more useful than clawing your opponent. Neovenator's biteforce is not superior to Lythronax, it stops here. But now if we ignored round 1, this is what we would get. Round 2: 50/50 but Allosaurus will probably win. Round 3: Total mismatch in favour of Carnotaurus, since it is much larger. Round 4: 2 Neovenators would possibly take down an Allosaurus at maximum sizes, Allosaurus can't just kill a Neovenator in seconds before the other one attacks it. Plus the other Neovenator is not just gonna watch its teammate getting killed by its rival, they would probably take the Allosaurus down here. 2 Neovenators can handle Allosaurus. Round 5: Once again, you are using a baseless estimate for Baryonyx. Just use the immature specimen for the time being. Either it being the immature specimen or your estimate, 3 Neovenators would handle it. The Neovenators win 'Total mismatch in favour of Carnotaurus, since it is much larger.' Using these estimates Carnotaurus is only 33% larger, which is not a massive advantage in this case. Neovenator has superior weaponry, and a much more agile figure. Carnotaurus only really has speed (which is not an advantage) and bulk on its side. 50/50, with perhaps a slight edge to Carnotaurus. By superior weaponry (talking about Neovenator VS Lythronax) I mean that Neovenator has more weaponry. I know Lythronax has a superior bite force. I would say perhaps 55/45 in favour of Lythronax for this fight. Tyrannosaurids are usually overrated in the biting department. Carnotaurus and Neovenator are 2 tons and 1 ton, at normal szes, respectively. I might be mistaken but that's about it, so it's basically a difference of *50% at fair sizes. Also Lythronax is not being overrated here on that department, it does have a strong bite. Tyrannosaurids are not really that strongly overrated in biteforce, they kinda deserve that status. Some people ovrrate them a lot for that but that's not most of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2014 2:28:43 GMT
The neovenator probably won't get past lythronax
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Post by Theropod on Jan 27, 2014 10:21:14 GMT
It wouldn't at all, I don't even know where Mecha got that 50% from
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 27, 2014 16:12:58 GMT
It wouldn't at all, I don't even know where Mecha got that 50% from 1.5 tons is 50% larger than 1 ton... |
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Post by Theropod on Jan 27, 2014 16:48:59 GMT
It wouldn't at all, I don't even know where Mecha got that 50% from 1.5 tons is 50% larger than 1 ton... Who doesn't know that? The point here is, no-one knows where you got those estimates from. Neovenator and Lythronax are both around ~1.5t. |
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 27, 2014 16:58:16 GMT
1.5 tons is 50% larger than 1 ton... Who doesn't know that? The point here is, no-one knows where you got those estimates from. Neovenator and Lythronax are both around ~1.5t. Yea I know that now, but when I said that Neovenator was 50% larger I thought that Lythronax was 1 ton and Neovenator was 1.5 tons. |
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