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Post by thesporerex on Oct 5, 2013 1:00:56 GMT
What do you think are the largest dinosaurs?, I am not talking about the all time largest but nominate some of these dinosaur(Sauropods) as ONE of the largest. I will be posting some in a minute  |
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Post by Theropod on Oct 5, 2013 1:02:35 GMT
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 5, 2013 2:04:21 GMT
1.amphicoelias fragillimus ![]()  This is the largest animal that has ever lived, reaching between 70-85 metres long it towers above everything. This animal has been estimated to weigh 170-230 tons at those lengths. It was apart of the diplodocidae family in the late jurassic in the morrison formation. Only one bone has been found but it was bigger than anything everyfound. The fossil has deteriated to dust now but its still considered a valid genus. This titan was imense, one kick could kill a T-rex or Spinosaurus instantly as you can see in the size comparison. |
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Post by es1001 on Oct 5, 2013 2:16:01 GMT
Amphicoelias may be a synonym of an already existing sauropod, scientists have said. Also, I dont believe that Amphi grew to be as big as the diagram shows personally. I believe it was a sauropod dinosaur with large legs compared to its body size. This would have supported a potentially semi-aquatic lifestyle, by allowing the giant dinosaur to tread across rivers and ponds. I just think that size is just absolutely tremendous, and I doubt anything could get THAT big.
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 5, 2013 2:23:36 GMT
Amphicoelias being synonym of dilpodocus has been debunked and that semi-aquatic sauropods have been debunked since the 60s. Estimates range from very conservative 40 metre estimate to a very liberal 100 metre estimate. Scaling a adult dilpodocus vertabrate from the measurements of Amphicoelias's remains gives me about +75 metres. Also the remains of Amphicoelias has nothing to do with its legs but its vertabrate.
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Post by es1001 on Oct 5, 2013 5:25:42 GMT
 I believe that the actual size of amphicoelias is probably larger than altus, but no where near as big as fragillimus. I find it extremely hard to believe anything could be that big. Regarding the synonym and aquatic stuffs, I think it is POSSIBLE for amphi to be a synonym of ANY known sauropod, as the diplodicus theory as you said has been cleared. By semi-aquatic lifestyle, I simply meant that it could have got across rivers with those huge legs.
But now that I have done some research, completely disregard my aquatic theory as I thought Amphi's remains where 8m tall thigh bones XD I dont know where that came from. |
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 5, 2013 15:20:10 GMT
It isn't possible for Amphicoelias for to be a synonym of any sauropod because they fossils that were found were not similar to any distinct genus of any other dinosaur. Also that 60 metre estimate comes from bad scaling, between 70 to 85 metres is most likely. Amphicoelias is much smaller around Diplodicus Hallorum to Supersaurus sized animal or something like that I know practically nothing about Amphicoelias Altus I know more about the collosus Amphicoelias Fragillimus.
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Post by Theropod on Oct 5, 2013 15:33:44 GMT
Amphicoelias may be a synonym of an already existing sauropod, scientists have said. Also, I dont believe that Amphi grew to be as big as the diagram shows personally. I believe it was a sauropod dinosaur with large legs compared to its body size. This would have supported a potentially semi-aquatic lifestyle, by allowing the giant dinosaur to tread across rivers and ponds. I just think that size is just absolutely tremendous, and I doubt anything could get THAT big. That would make other proven large sauropods scientifically impossible as some are slightly smaller in length/height |
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 5, 2013 15:42:07 GMT
Amphicoelias may be a synonym of an already existing sauropod, scientists have said. Also, I dont believe that Amphi grew to be as big as the diagram shows personally. I believe it was a sauropod dinosaur with large legs compared to its body size. This would have supported a potentially semi-aquatic lifestyle, by allowing the giant dinosaur to tread across rivers and ponds. I just think that size is just absolutely tremendous, and I doubt anything could get THAT big. That would make other proven large sauropods scientifically impossible as some are slightly smaller in length/height There are no sauropods that even come close to this size, its taller than brachiosaurus altithorax even when its neck is vertical. |
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 6, 2013 1:58:55 GMT
2.Brachiosaurus nougaredi  Brachiosaurus nougarendi is massive, reaching over 38 metres and could be 120 tons it is the largest brachiosaur of all time(breviparopus is right behind it). It is also the tallest dinosaur of all time. It is the second largest dinosaur of all time and is undoubtably big enough to put 99% of all animals in their places. It is utterly imense. |
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Post by es1001 on Oct 6, 2013 3:47:40 GMT
What in the hell would have hunted animals this large! If Spino was the biggest Carnivore ever, Brachiosaurus Nougaredi would be invinsible against predators even in adolescent years!
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 6, 2013 10:27:46 GMT
Well thats how they did it, they hunted the younge and sick animals as do all creatures. In the wild today a pack of lions can take down a 4-6 ton elephant. Most animals never reach full size because they die before they become adults(except for humans). When these sauropods reach fullsize they become practically invincible, but at a younge age the predators they are vaunrable.
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I honestly think there were predators that hunted these herbivores that were also massive...it is a possibility...don't deny it...
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 14, 2013 16:07:44 GMT
I honestly think there were predators that hunted these herbivores that were also massive...it is a possibility...don't deny it... The largest a Biped can get is 14 tons(this will rule applies to all 2 legged animals so this will apply to theropods) and the Amphicoelias is 200+ tons. Spinosaurus is almost at that barrier. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that something out there is actually bigger than Spinosaurus for a land carnivore. There is a tiny chance that there was a predator only 1 ton heavier than Spinosaurus but it is unlikely we will ever know of a terrestrail predator larger than Spinosaurus. |
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I honestly think there were predators that hunted these herbivores that were also massive...it is a possibility...don't deny it... The largest a Biped can get is 14 tons(this will rule applies to all 2 legged animals so this will apply to theropods) and the Amphicoelias is 200+ tons. Spinosaurus is almost at that barrier. It is EXTREMELY unlikely that something out there is actually bigger than Spinosaurus for a land carnivore. There is a tiny chance that there was a predator only 1 ton heavier than Spinosaurus but it is unlikely we will ever know of a terrestrail predator larger than Spinosaurus. true true but it isn't impossible... |
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