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Post by SX Productions on Sept 15, 2016 21:42:50 GMT
I play both games. I should be fair and say that my TF2 hours vastly outnumber my current Overwatch hours. That said, Overwatch is not "Clickbait: The Game." The game has a lot of character to it and the gameplay is solid. I like the individual balancing of characters better. Does that make TF2 bad? No.
Meet Your Match REALLY soured TF2 for me, however. I HATE the casual mode and the competitive is broken at the moment, with class stacking and absurd queue times. Overwatch has been filling this gap of team-based gameplay for me. Does Overwatch have a few characters that have a rubbery appearance and fine asses? Sure, but they also have a Hispanic edgelord, XXXXL Australian Skorpion with a gasmask, and an old German guy in power armor. My point is, you two are not better than MatPat and his legion of cringelords with this debate.
P.S. I actually main Reinhardt, so I'm getting a bloody golden hammer first.
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Post by SrSpinelli on Sept 15, 2016 21:43:30 GMT
Sure it is better. It's not like it's fucking dead with only 50k players peer day or that Valve abandoned it I don't give a shit about the amount of players, TF2 is fun, has a sence of humour and is overall a great game, Overwatch is just click bait the game. Oh yeah, the game breaking exploits are so fun, the hackers that after 9 year still did not get banned are fun, the copy of OW comp is so fun, the sense of humor that died 3 years ago is so fun, the toxic community is so fun Overawatch is better than TF2 in every aspect. Stop denying the facts. The fact that you called it a click bait shows how much of a TF Purist you are.
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 15, 2016 21:48:01 GMT
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 1:11:14 GMT
Imo it is good that people discuss their interests as long as they don't take it personally. If I am to be honest many discussions on this forum tend to have something personal which makes others feel a bit awkward about discussions. Discussions are a good thing but its not necessary to be sarcastic about anything as sarcasm tends to annoy people in discussions. I am not promoting sugar coating here as I dig honesty more and people don't need to pretend they're all neutral or fine with each other, but I feel talking about a game on the other hand is not the time to bring out personal stuff. And this hasn't escalated yet but having seen maaaaany Internet arguments before good part of them start with shit like "oh yeah the game is x" and statements showing sarcasm. But please don't take this the wrong way as I find it better when people are honest.
Also the stuff about the number of players is irrelevant. Overwatch is trending right now so of course it will have a lot of players. TF2 is almost a decade old now. If Overwatch keeps 15 million players in 9 years then the argument will hold more weight. But even then, it's not relevant. Psy has the most viewed song on Youtube but that does not mean it is better than Metallica, Nirvana, Tupac, Biggie, Skylar Grey, Enya, Eminem, Yelawolf, Iron Maiden, Megadeth or ah lelek lek cha cha cha. PewDiePie has the most subscribers out of everyone else but that does not mean he is the best Youtuber or that he has the best video on Youtube. Jurassic Park isn't the most successful movie of all time yet I doubt anyone would find it outrageous to say it is the best movie of all time.
The problem is that I am not sure if TF2 and Overwatch have the same purpose as games despite being shooters so its comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 16, 2016 1:20:28 GMT
TF2 and Overwatch are definitely in the same market.
Also, Jurassic Park IS the best movie of all time.
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 1:21:44 GMT
I changed my mini-profile text colour a couple times and still feel weird about it
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 1:22:23 GMT
TF2 and Overwatch are definitely in the same market. No difference in goal they can possibly have at all?
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 16, 2016 1:51:24 GMT
I mean, Overwatch is basically TF3.
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 16, 2016 1:52:03 GMT
How do you change mini-text color?
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 2:25:43 GMT
Go to your profile, click Edit Profile > Personal, then scroll to the bottom. You should see a "Mini-Profile Text Color" field, hopefully you should also see a preview of your mini-profile (if the plugin was working properly this would be certain; but I didn't get a reply from its maker at the support thread yet). If I'm online at the time you try to change it, hit me up so I can update the plugin as the option to use a color mixer to easily choose the colour when you click on that field stays for a short period of time and then it disappears. I don't know why. I want the plugin creator to fix it but he hasn't said anything yet.
If you want to add the colour and you don't get the colour mixer, type a hex code, like mine is ffc200.
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 2:26:35 GMT
And well if the two games are so similar then yes discussing on which is best is a valid thing. There could be a thread for that to be honest.
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 16, 2016 9:52:02 GMT
My issue with discussing is that discussing it becomes such a hostile topic anymore.
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Post by SrSpinelli on Sept 16, 2016 15:52:48 GMT
Forgive my partner, but TF2 and Overwatch are different game with the only similarities being that they both include Team Work and Different Classes/Characters.
TF2 is a free Team Based Shooter that is basically Quake with mods(literally), the game varies from 12 v 12 to 32 v 32, it has a lot of maps(most suck), lots fo gamemodes(In which only Pl, PLr, CTF, KOTH and CTP are fun.) while having some pretty good humor and characters(9), it's pretty old(9 years old) it has a crate system that makes you pay 10R$(dunno how much in $) to open and makes you pay REAL money to customize your character or get custom skins for weapons, even the taunts are paid, the game contains a super toxic community that bullies new players and people that did not waste their money on virtual hats, you have to pay 20$ to get access to all gamemodes and 10$-100000$ to get access to the complete customization. The game is full of glitches and broken mechanics that can be used to exploit and ruin the game. The last good update was in 2014.
OW is a MOBA-Like First Person shooter with 3 gamemodes(some mixed with the other in some cases) with 15 maps(most of them being beautiful, with a lot of details and fun to play.) all gamemodes are 6 v 6, the game, having amazing characters(23 for now), each feeling unique. All fo those have been inspired by other games and movies(Including TF which is referenced by Pharah and Zarya), the game has a crate system in which each level you pass, you get a crate in which you can open for free, you get 4 itens a row, those items including: skins, sprays, phrases, taunts, highlights animations, profile pictures and In-Game money to buy wahtever you like winthout having to buy anything with real money. the community is yet growing, but it has two sides for now, the cancerous(shippers and people that fap to the chars) and the normal side. the game ranges from 40$-60$, while having few maps and gamemodes, it has Quality over Quantity and gets update every week.
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Post by SX Productions on Sept 16, 2016 16:04:26 GMT
Well then.
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Post by Theropod on Sept 16, 2016 17:36:08 GMT
They are different games so game-wise you can't compare them. But yes it is valid to compare them quality-wise like you did. Some things don't make sense though, like its age. I don't get why that holds any meaning. A game can be old and still be good. A community does not determine the quality of something so that's not relevant. Jurassic Park has very cancerous fans, dinosaurs have cancerous fans, everything good has horrible fans to an extent. Doesn't make anything any worse. Also Overwatch is still growing so judging it is kinda weird.
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