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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Oct 19, 2013 23:03:13 GMT
I know it was a sauropod. But I mean, look how big that sauropod seemingly got to be! Not even a pack of Allosauruses could take it down (Or pretty bloody difficult to take it down) There must have been some monster out there that could take it down. I mean, look at this size comparison This makes T-rex AND Spino look puny!
There has to be some carnivore at least 10m tall who could take it down! An ULTRA-Carnivore. The limit to how large a biped can get is much smaller than the limit to how large a sauropod can get, because bipeds only have two legs to support their weight on, while sauropods have 4 massive legs to support their weight on. 14 tons is about the maximum weight for a biped (Spinosaurus weighs this amount) while the maximum weight for a sauropod is about 100 tons. When I say sauropods I mean quadrupeds in general. However, sauropods are the only quadrupeds which are able to grow to titanic proportions because of their huge bodies and massive legs, which are balanced out by an extremely long neck and tail.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 13:38:45 GMT
Colossus it hunts this sauropod lolz
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 20, 2013 13:42:11 GMT
Amphicoelias was a sauropod, not a biped carnivore though I know it was a sauropod. But I mean, look how big that sauropod seemingly got to be! Not even a pack of Allosauruses could take it down (Or pretty bloody difficult to take it down) There must have been some monster out there that could take it down. I mean, look at this size comparison This makes T-rex AND Spino look puny!
There has to be some carnivore at least 10m tall who could take it down! An ULTRA-Carnivore. That size comparison is inaccurate, Amphicoelias is in the range of 75-85 metres long not 100 metres. These ons are far more accurate
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Post by Lmpkio on Oct 20, 2013 17:26:58 GMT
I know it was a sauropod. But I mean, look how big that sauropod seemingly got to be! Not even a pack of Allosauruses could take it down (Or pretty bloody difficult to take it down) There must have been some monster out there that could take it down. I mean, look at this size comparison This makes T-rex AND Spino look puny!
There has to be some carnivore at least 10m tall who could take it down! An ULTRA-Carnivore. That size comparison is inaccurate, Amphicoelias is in the range of 75-85 metres long not 100 metres. These ons are far more accurate Ah I see. Thanks for the clear up!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 23:38:04 GMT
well the tank could fire a shell up the sauropods bunghole which could kill it or just give it bad constipation we'll never know...
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Post by Theropod on Oct 23, 2013 20:30:42 GMT
well the tank could fire a shell up the sauropods bunghole which could kill it or just give it bad constipation we'll never know... I doubt that would do anything to the sauropod
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 20:31:50 GMT
well the tank could fire a shell up the sauropods bunghole which could kill it or just give it bad constipation we'll never know... I doubt that would do anything to the sauropod It was a joke lol...
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Post by Theropod on Oct 23, 2013 20:40:56 GMT
I doubt that would do anything to the sauropod It was a joke lol... I am aware of that
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Post by thesporerex on Oct 23, 2013 21:17:39 GMT
The limit to how large a biped can get is much smaller than the limit to how large a sauropod can get, because bipeds only have two legs to support their weight on, while sauropods have 4 massive legs to support their weight on. 14 tons is about the maximum weight for a biped (Spinosaurus weighs this amount) while the maximum weight for a sauropod is about 100 tons. You sorta have a bit of a point... The limit for sauropods is about 250-300 tons, but I doubt sauropods needed to grow that big.
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Post by DJ Spinosaurus on Jan 10, 2014 20:29:46 GMT
Carcharodon Biggysaurus takes amphicoelias lolz
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Post by Theropod on Jan 10, 2014 22:09:41 GMT
Carcharodon Biggysaurus takes amphicoelias lolz So you watched it...
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Post by ornitholestes on Jul 10, 2014 15:57:23 GMT
The limit for a terrestrial animal is probably somewhere between 100 and 1000t, according to Hokkanen 1985.
Bipeds are most likely limited to far smaller sizes (and nope, we don’t know how small exactly, they could still be humungous from what we know) because they have to adopt different postures for balancing, which put them at a disadvantage regarding support and limb loading. For example, all known theropods have a certain degree of flexion in their knees and ankles in order to provide sufficient balance for their anterior center of mass, which requires a higher amount of muscle power and imposes higher bending forces on the bones than if they were loaded in collumnar fashion. On the other hand, the legs of a giant quadruped, like an elephant or sauropod, are usually collumnar in posture, which is an advantage since bone is very strong as long as mere compression is concerned–which in turn makes extreme weights and the resulting square-cube-law trouble more manageable.
But an animal with the posture of a cat or a rhino would run into the same problems, this is not inherent to bipedalism, but to the fact that it doesn’t allow for collumnar legs.
The probability of already having found the biggest theropod seems rather slim. However, I also have a hard time imagining that something considerably bigger than Spinosaurus will turn up–but that’s rather my imagination that’s limited than the actual possibilities.
Regarding megapredators for megasauropods: Considering Amphicoelias fragillimus and the various ichnofossils hinting at sauropods of comparable size, undoubtedly there is more left to discover. Whether the predators in question would necessarily have had to be bigger than those already known, I don’t know. Generally, the size potential of known theropods isn’t even close to being known. There are merely 2 specimens of Giganotosaurus carolinii, Carcharodontosaurus saharicus and Tyrannotitan chubutensis respectively and about 9 (supposedly many of them juveniles) of Mapusaurus, and I think if Myhrvold 2013 taught us anything it is that very few dinosaur specimens have actually reached full size (let alone being particularly large for their species).
And I know many people have an innate scepticism regarding footprints, but there are upper Jurassic ichnites from Morrocco and Iberia which very likely belong to animals at the upper end of the size range of the taxa listed above. Of the ones described by Boutakiout et al. 2009 the two layers averaged a foot lenght of 75 and 77cm, with maxima above 80cm. With Thulborn’s (1990) formula (FL×4.9=MT3+Tb+Fm) this gives us a hindlimb lenght of 368cm and 377cm respectively (which is rather conservative considering they included little, if any, clawmarks).
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jul 10, 2014 17:30:25 GMT
If there was a gargantuan carnivore (e.g larger than 13-14 tons), it would be very rare because little prey could support the metabolism of such a large animal on land.
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Post by Theropod on Jul 10, 2014 23:28:47 GMT
I don't think prey would be an issue at all, the fact the area of a bone gets smaller compared to an animal's mass as it grows is the biggest issue. Of course, there's also allometric scaling, but a limit is far from illogical.
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