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Post by es1001 on Dec 2, 2013 10:16:12 GMT
I am going to use Alba Moreno as an example here.
Now, I completely understand why you all hate people like Alba. Completely. She can be a pain in the ass, and often acts like she knows everything; she clearly doesn't. This leads to picking. I understand this too. Its the internet! If you don't like someone, let them know! More likely than not, they are going to move on. *cough* nickbernier *cough*.
But I personally think things can get too far with this forum. You can pick, but eventually it gets to a point where it is borderline abuse. You can change some of her annoying posts, but if she says something completely reasonable, what is the point of changing it to some rude language which she probably doesn't want to see? You can tell her to go away or point out her flaws and ask her to work on them, but why are we picking on her for things that happened months ago? Like her grammar. She is young, I don't except many people that age to be able to spell that well.
I'm only making this post because she was very obviously getting upset, and just wanted a chance to fit into the PDFC Community. But we kinda completely shut her out. I wont hold a grudge if you still do, but I would like it if less of this stuff happens in the future. You can leave your opinion in the comments, and I will gladly read it. And thank you for reading mine.
TL;DR: Maybe this is just me growing up, but I think we should just turn down the abuse towards people we don't like (Alba Moreno).
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Post by Suchomimus65 on Dec 2, 2013 10:58:24 GMT
Nice to know there's someone else who thinks like this. I agree completely.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 2, 2013 15:41:14 GMT
No offence but this whole post is completely pointless, there is no point on giving alba the fucking thousandth chance just so she will waste it again. She asked for billions of chances just so we would found out she was gonna be a dick again. This "always forgive" bullshit is a biblic thing which I know you are an atheist sandman. We just pick on her because she keeps returning and it's obvious she's gonna start her dick behaviour as soon as she gets trusted by us. You are not convincing anyone with this sandman, there is no point on this post. Anyone else would have learned with their errors, but this little prick is just getting worse. She still tries to be the smart cunt. Please give me a good, convincing paragraph why we should give her the chance number #99999999.
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Post by es1001 on Dec 3, 2013 8:01:36 GMT
No offence but this whole post is completely pointless, there is no point on giving alba the fucking thousandth chance just so she will waste it again. She asked for billions of chances just so we would found out she was gonna be a dick again. This "always forgive" bullshit is a biblic thing which I know you are an atheist sandman. We just pick on her because she keeps returning and it's obvious she's gonna start her dick behaviour as soon as she gets trusted by us. You are not convincing anyone with this sandman, there is no point on this post. Anyone else would have learned with their errors, but this little prick is just getting worse. She still tries to be the smart cunt. Please give me a good, convincing paragraph why we should give her the chance number #99999999.
I completely agree with you here, and that she has wasted all of her chances. She always does this stuff, and you dont want to give her more chances. Totally understand. And in all reality, that wasn't exactly what I was saying. What I was trying to point out was that there is no use in abusing her to the extent that we did, because that's not doing anything but making this community look immature; we are much more than that. Just Ignore her, or do something less offensive. Like my example, you can obviously edit her stupid annoying posts, but if she says something normal and that makes sense why should we change it to some stupid shit?
That's all I'm trying to say. And I just wanted to let people know that it would be nice if we saw less of this in future. If you want to continue to do this, that is absolutely fine. I understand why you can become pissed of to the point of no return with her.
PS: Just because your an Atheist, doesn't mean you should hold grudges, I just like to forgive people and move on. Not that it makes you a bad person if you hold grudges, of course.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 3, 2013 14:01:16 GMT
No offence but this whole post is completely pointless, there is no point on giving alba the fucking thousandth chance just so she will waste it again. She asked for billions of chances just so we would found out she was gonna be a dick again. This "always forgive" bullshit is a biblic thing which I know you are an atheist sandman. We just pick on her because she keeps returning and it's obvious she's gonna start her dick behaviour as soon as she gets trusted by us. You are not convincing anyone with this sandman, there is no point on this post. Anyone else would have learned with their errors, but this little prick is just getting worse. She still tries to be the smart cunt. Please give me a good, convincing paragraph why we should give her the chance number #99999999.
I completely agree with you here, and that she has wasted all of her chances. She always does this stuff, and you dont want to give her more chances. Totally understand. And in all reality, that wasn't exactly what I was saying. What I was trying to point out was that there is no use in abusing her to the extent that we did, because that's not doing anything but making this community look immature; we are much more than that. Just Ignore her, or do something less offensive. Like my example, you can obviously edit her stupid annoying posts, but if she says something normal and that makes sense why should we change it to some stupid shit?
That's all I'm trying to say. And I just wanted to let people know that it would be nice if we saw less of this in future. If you want to continue to do this, that is absolutely fine. I understand why you can become pissed of to the point of no return with her.
PS: Just because your an Atheist, doesn't mean you should hold grudges, I just like to forgive people and move on. Not that it makes you a bad person if you hold grudges, of course.This thread is pointless though, we are just getting a laugh by doing that. I don't see anything wrong with making a joke, if she's upset I don't give a fuck because it just means she can't take a joke. And not being able to take a joke is just ridiculous. Also, not. It is not that obvious that she is "upset", more like just bitchy/pissed. I don't see a convicing reason for this thread.
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Post by es1001 on Dec 4, 2013 8:19:45 GMT
This thread is pointless though, we are just getting a laugh by doing that. I don't see anything wrong with making a joke, if she's upset I don't give a fuck because it just means she can't take a joke. And not being able to take a joke is just ridiculous. Also, not. It is not that obvious that she is "upset", more like just bitchy/pissed. I don't see a convicing reason for this thread. "Getting a laugh" Sir, the only thing I completely disagree with you is... "Getting a laugh" Remember when you guys (Including Spore and Animatrocities) started making fun on one of my characters? I was pretty damn upset about that. Thankfully it is gone, but if I remember completely (correct me if I am wrong) you were making a "joke" about it. You called making fun of someone abusingly making a JOKE? Thats bullying. You are doing pretty much the same to Alba (Which I do not mind actually, but just pointing out). I understand what you are doing (Hell I bullied her too with you!), but keep in mind that you are not just getting a laugh, BUT ALSO bullying. I'm not on her side (Hell Im not on her side!), but at least keep in mind about what I said, ok?
This is pretty much an extension of what I was saying Theropod. I just feel like even though it's a joke to us, to her it is bullying. She may deserve it, but you can still be the better person here by just ignoring her. Poking fun a little is fine, but doing it for the sake of making her feel bad and saying she cant take a joke is not nice, especially since she is young. I understand why you're doing this, and once again, feel free to continue because it's not even that big a deal. I was just hoping we could just turn down the insults and teasing. That's all.
Oh, and as for my profile pick lmpkio. It's because, as you said yourself, ITS SEXY!
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Post by Theropod on Dec 4, 2013 14:42:48 GMT
What the fuck is bullying for you two? It's not bullying. She has been fucking told to leave yet she returned with the knowledge that it will happen again. If we are not getting a laugh, why do you people use "lol" for that? Why do people talk about that all the time? Because we are making fun of something we think is funny. It's not something to worry about and her parents will not sue us, as far as I am aware of, they can't. We did not physically damage her which means they cannot sue us, that would be just fucking retarded. es1001 It is not fucking bullying, it's a joke. It can be uncalled for but it's not fucking bullying, she just needs to learn how to take a fucking joke. Lmpkio It's not a porn site, it's just for fucking fun as we actually laughed. We didn't even go full pedo on her. That's just having sense of fucking humour instead of not knowing what a fucking joke is and thinking he is mature. I am using the word "fucking" frequently here because it gives your statement some effect. Lmpkio That is not the fucking easiest way for fuck sake. Proving a point is an easy way, making her acknowledge it and so she will be aware of what the fuck is going on. If I ban her, that's gonna be just fucking low since I would be doing the same she did overall; I would be a little hypocritical if I did that, because she blocks people on Youtube when they provide negative feedback. Banning her is the same thing because it's a simple way of getting away with it by clicking a button. I'd rather have a debate with that kid so she would finally know what the fuck is going on and that she is not welcome. Lmpkio That joke about your characters, it was quite obviously a joke and you took it to heart. So what? It was just a misunderstanding but you got over it anyway, or at least by the looks of it. No one here is getting sued for getting a laugh. And getting a laugh here is not bullying, we are not really damaging her. Acting mature is knowing how to take a joke, and when and how to make one. Not just being serious all the time and thinking he's mature enough. No offence at all but your concept of maturity is just flawled. And what members are gonna see us as bad staff members when they apparently agree with us when we insult alba? I can't see how that would work. This is not intended to offend anyone, and it's not a real fight, just a debate for anyone reading this.
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Post by es1001 on Dec 5, 2013 7:56:30 GMT
What the fuck is bullying for you two? It's not bullying. She has been fucking told to leave yet she returned with the knowledge that it will happen again. If we are not getting a laugh, why do you people use "lol" for that? Why do people talk about that all the time? Because we are making fun of something we think is funny. It's not something to worry about and her parents will not sue us, as far as I am aware of, they can't. We did not physically damage her which means they cannot sue us, that would be just fucking retarded. es1001 It is not fucking bullying, it's a joke. It can be uncalled for but it's not fucking bullying, she just needs to learn how to take a fucking joke. Lmpkio It's not a porn site, it's just for fucking fun as we actually laughed. We didn't even go full pedo on her. That's just having sense of fucking humour instead of not knowing what a fucking joke is and thinking he is mature. I am using the word "fucking" frequently here because it gives your statement some effect. Lmpkio That is not the fucking easiest way for fuck sake. Proving a point is an easy way, making her acknowledge it and so she will be aware of what the fuck is going on. If I ban her, that's gonna be just fucking low since I would be doing the same she did overall; I would be a little hypocritical if I did that, because she blocks people on Youtube when they provide negative feedback. Banning her is the same thing because it's a simple way of getting away with it by clicking a button. I'd rather have a debate with that kid so she would finally know what the fuck is going on and that she is not welcome. Lmpkio That joke about your characters, it was quite obviously a joke and you took it to heart. So what? It was just a misunderstanding but you got over it anyway, or at least by the looks of it. No one here is getting sued for getting a laugh. And getting a laugh here is not bullying, we are not really damaging her. Acting mature is knowing how to take a joke, and when and how to make one. Not just being serious all the time and thinking he's mature enough. No offence at all but your concept of maturity is just flawled. And what members are gonna see us as bad staff members when they apparently agree with us when we insult alba? I can't see how that would work. This is not intended to offend anyone, and it's not a real fight, just a debate for anyone reading this.
Woah there, I know you're not that mad, but just calm a bit. We are not trying to convince you Alba is a nice person and that she should stay, or even that she shouldn't be poked fun off. We are just saying that the jokes can get a bit too far. My friends pick on me a lot, and although I'm okay with it now, I used to get upset because they teased me all the time and even though it was a joke to them they made me feel bad. It wasn't a couple jokes, it was like 20 insults in succession until someone noticed I was annoyed, then they stopped. Repeat every day for a month or so, and the victim thinks its bullying. And, in all honestly, it is a mild version of bullying. It's not the fact the victim cant take a joke, its the fact they have so many jokes to take without being offended in some way. And just one more thing; do you expect a child to be mature?
On a side note, if her parents were pretty crazy then (I'm not joking) they could sue us. We are borderline abusing an online citizen. It may not seem like it to us, but for a girl who is young and gets called porn star names all day; it is. But trust me, it will be a difficult case and it probably wont work because you're not doing anything to mentally or physically harm her. Psychologically though...
Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a heated debate, I, again, just wanted people to see that we could be making Alba very upset, and that we can take things too far imo. If you want to continue, I don't care, and as much as I hate alba; I wont be joining in anymore. Forgive and Forget for me. For others, up to you.
Can we end it with that? I completely understand your side to this Theropod and I respect it in every way.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 6, 2013 0:05:57 GMT
This thread is pointless though, we are just getting a laugh by doing that. I don't see anything wrong with making a joke, if she's upset I don't give a fuck because it just means she can't take a joke. And not being able to take a joke is just ridiculous. Also, not. It is not that obvious that she is "upset", more like just bitchy/pissed. I don't see a convicing reason for this thread. "Getting a laugh" Sir, the only thing I completely disagree with you is... "Getting a laugh" Remember when you guys (Including Spore and Animatrocities) started making fun on one of my characters? I was pretty damn upset about that. Thankfully it is gone, but if I remember completely (correct me if I am wrong) you were making a "joke" about it. You called making fun of someone abusingly making a JOKE? Thats bullying. You are doing pretty much the same to Alba (Which I do not mind actually, but just pointing out). I understand what you are doing (Hell I bullied her too with you!), but keep in mind that you are not just getting a laugh, BUT ALSO bullying. I'm not on her side (Hell Im not on her side!), but at least keep in mind about what I said, ok?
Except we were not bullying you in anyway shape or form, there is a difference between a joke and bullying.
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Post by thesporerex on Dec 6, 2013 0:06:40 GMT
Also I now agree with ES1001, we all do hate alba but we should keep that on youtube and leave it out of the forum. Even though I took part in some of it I now appologise and will try to restore it back to how it was.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 0:32:30 GMT
...you know i said this earlier on one of theropod's videos that this would escalate out of control and it would be incredibly hard to stop it...well guess what, it's escalating out of control and Taimur,Theropod,and I have gone a little way overboard...Theropod if you think that alba's parents can't sue your dead wrong!From the pictures you've showed us apparently she's very poor and her parents would probably jump at the chance to sue for money...they may not win but the odds aren't exactly in our favor either...there is a crime called cyber bullying and it is very real and very disastrous to anyone who continues doing it because when news gets out about a spaniard committing suicide or trying to kill herself or her story goes live around the world to see, you know exactly who the fuck there coming for, US!!!You may think that oh that will never happen...it happens every da actually and the consequences are very severe...So lets stop this incessant bullshit it's not even funny anymore because it's all the same joke posted everywhere on this forum and other people coming to this forum will see it and be like what the fuck... I'm sorry but I'm putting my foot down this bullshit has to stop!!!I know its your forum theropod, i understand that but you will bring its own destruction if you keep acting like this if we all keep acting like this and it's just not worth it...If this continues i will leave the forum...cyber bullying is a very severe crime and I'm not going to jail for it for saying stupid shit on the internet... And theropod you keep saying it's just a joke...honestly that's a very stupid response because it's not just a joke anymore...it's becoming a plague of hatred and profanity...and i take to much part in that shit all the time...i'm done...
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Post by es1001 on Dec 6, 2013 2:54:45 GMT
I'm glad to see that the more people read this, the more they agree. You guys are being the better people here and just giving up on Alba and her shenanigans.
And I would just like to bring up something that you may or may not agree on. If Alba joins the forum again, how about we just let her go and see if she does anything stupid. If she is perfectly normal, then let her stay. But if she continues to annoy us, good riddance. Yes or no? I would say no, because I quite honestly don't want all this to repeat itself, but what do you guys think?
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What the fuck is bullying for you two? It's not bullying. She has been fucking told to leave yet she returned with the knowledge that it will happen again. If we are not getting a laugh, why do you people use "lol" for that? Why do people talk about that all the time? Because we are making fun of something we think is funny. It's not something to worry about and her parents will not sue us, as far as I am aware of, they can't. We did not physically damage her which means they cannot sue us, that would be just fucking retarded. es1001 It is not fucking bullying, it's a joke. It can be uncalled for but it's not fucking bullying, she just needs to learn how to take a fucking joke. Lmpkio It's not a porn site, it's just for fucking fun as we actually laughed. We didn't even go full pedo on her. That's just having sense of fucking humour instead of not knowing what a fucking joke is and thinking he is mature. I am using the word "fucking" frequently here because it gives your statement some effect. Lmpkio That is not the fucking easiest way for fuck sake. Proving a point is an easy way, making her acknowledge it and so she will be aware of what the fuck is going on. If I ban her, that's gonna be just fucking low since I would be doing the same she did overall; I would be a little hypocritical if I did that, because she blocks people on Youtube when they provide negative feedback. Banning her is the same thing because it's a simple way of getting away with it by clicking a button. I'd rather have a debate with that kid so she would finally know what the fuck is going on and that she is not welcome. Lmpkio That joke about your characters, it was quite obviously a joke and you took it to heart. So what? It was just a misunderstanding but you got over it anyway, or at least by the looks of it. No one here is getting sued for getting a laugh. And getting a laugh here is not bullying, we are not really damaging her. Acting mature is knowing how to take a joke, and when and how to make one. Not just being serious all the time and thinking he's mature enough. No offence at all but your concept of maturity is just flawled. And what members are gonna see us as bad staff members when they apparently agree with us when we insult alba? I can't see how that would work. This is not intended to offend anyone, and it's not a real fight, just a debate for anyone reading this.
Woah there, I know you're not that mad, but just calm a bit. We are not trying to convince you Alba is a nice person and that she should stay, or even that she shouldn't be poked fun off. We are just saying that the jokes can get a bit too far. My friends pick on me a lot, and although I'm okay with it now, I used to get upset because they teased me all the time and even though it was a joke to them they made me feel bad. It wasn't a couple jokes, it was like 20 insults in succession until someone noticed I was annoyed, then they stopped. Repeat every day for a month or so, and the victim thinks its bullying. And, in all honestly, it is a mild version of bullying. It's not the fact the victim cant take a joke, its the fact they have so many jokes to take without being offended in some way. And just one more thing; do you expect a child to be mature?
On a side note, if her parents were pretty crazy then (I'm not joking) they could sue us. We are borderline abusing an online citizen. It may not seem like it to us, but for a girl who is young and gets called porn star names all day; it is. But trust me, it will be a difficult case and it probably wont work because you're not doing anything to mentally or physically harm her. Psychologically though...
Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a heated debate, I, again, just wanted people to see that we could be making Alba very upset, and that we can take things too far imo. If you want to continue, I don't care, and as much as I hate alba; I wont be joining in anymore. Forgive and Forget for me. For others, up to you.
Can we end it with that? I completely understand your side to this Theropod and I respect it in every way.I am not mad, it may seem like I am but I am completely calm. I don't see how you can even come with that. Also you felt bad because they were in fact bullying you in some shape or form, but what we were doing is not bullying at all. It's a joke just like what @animatrocities and thesporerex did with lmpkio's characters. Also iot has some hate into it because we really dislike her behaviour and if everyone thinks someone sucks then the person must suck for real. Also yes I do expect a child to be mature. If they are ready to be taught fucking algebra and say they are at high school I don't see how alba can't be mature at the age of 12. Plus, as far as I am aware of, Spinofan12 is the same age as alba. Spinofan CAN take a joke and he can act way more mature than her and he can actually make a joke in the right time. He is a good example that a child can act mature. Plus girls reach puberty before boys which means they will start to have more mature thoughts and that would mean alba has to be more fucking mature. Also you are just 15, you are a minor which gives you the title of kid. Yet you say "perhaps me just growing up", I can't see how a kid 3 years younger with her puberty being reached at a younger age than yours can be way more childish. At this age, we change a lot, but it still does not change much enough for this matter. And no they cannot sue us because we are not damaging her in any shape or form. And no there is not hate being put on this from my part, that is actually pointless. Unless you are. She is just getting what she fucking asked for, hate and jokes that she will not enjoy. If she is getting upset, I really wouldn't care. It's what she has been asking for and acting more mature (which is possible at her age) would not cause any harm, instead it would help her out.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 6, 2013 12:12:31 GMT
...you know i said this earlier on one of theropod's videos that this would escalate out of control and it would be incredibly hard to stop it...well guess what, it's escalating out of control and Taimur,Theropod,and I have gone a little way overboard...Theropod if you think that alba's parents can't sue your dead wrong!From the pictures you've showed us apparently she's very poor and her parents would probably jump at the chance to sue for money...they may not win but the odds aren't exactly in our favor either...there is a crime called cyber bullying and it is very real and very disastrous to anyone who continues doing it because when news gets out about a spaniard committing suicide or trying to kill herself or her story goes live around the world to see, you know exactly who the fuck there coming for, US!!!You may think that oh that will never happen...it happens every da actually and the consequences are very severe...So lets stop this incessant bullshit it's not even funny anymore because it's all the same joke posted everywhere on this forum and other people coming to this forum will see it and be like what the fuck... I'm sorry but I'm putting my foot down this bullshit has to stop!!!I know its your forum theropod, i understand that but you will bring its own destruction if you keep acting like this if we all keep acting like this and it's just not worth it...If this continues i will leave the forum...cyber bullying is a very severe crime and I'm not going to jail for it for saying stupid shit on the internet... And theropod you keep saying it's just a joke...honestly that's a very stupid response because it's not just a joke anymore...it's becoming a plague of hatred and profanity...and i take to much part in that shit all the time...i'm done... Coming from the most pessimistic person in the forum who thinks there is no peace and chaos is pretty much the world. 2 people die every second out of 7 BILLION+ people and infinite possible death ways. I even doubt it 1000 people would die everyday due to cyber bullying, you must be really depressed already for that. A 12 year old kid is easily proud of anything he/she does that a few people agree/enjoy/whatever the fuck it is, alba is 12 and I highly doubt it she would commit suicide when she probably got good stuff happening outside a small part of the internet. It's possible, but the chances are so low it's not even funny. Also that location is proobably not even where she lives, although it can be near that. And if she is poor there is more of a chance that her parents did not get enough schooling and therefore less knowledge and a smaller chance that they will even think of suing us. Also this is a possibility but once again, unlikely. Although that is more likely but still. I know why you are pessimistic so I am not gonna blame you for that because it goes out of our context and because it's probably hard for you but anyway. Alba is not being forced to get all this, because she can just leave and done. Or she could stop making fucking accounts all the time and tell us the truth instead of trying to get us to GUESS what is going on.
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Post by Theropod on Dec 6, 2013 12:15:12 GMT
I'm glad to see that the more people read this, the more they agree. You guys are being the better people here and just giving up on Alba and her shenanigans.
And I would just like to bring up something that you may or may not agree on. If Alba joins the forum again, how about we just let her go and see if she does anything stupid. If she is perfectly normal, then let her stay. But if she continues to annoy us, good riddance. Yes or no? I would say no, because I quite honestly don't want all this to repeat itself, but what do you guys think? It's her fault that everything is repeating itself. Her accounts are just obvious and she thinks it will help anyone. It won't, it just causes everything to repeat itself and it's not helping ANYONE so there is no point. The only way she could help us all, including herself, would be to admit she was wrong and act more mature.
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