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Post by thesporerex on Jan 23, 2015 18:04:26 GMT
What kind of events in the past you think that if they happened would change history? Alternate history is a tricky thing, what kind of things can you think of? Keep in mind, POSSIBLE alternate events.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 23, 2015 19:35:57 GMT
Nazi Germany winning WWII
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Post by themechabaryonyx789 on Jan 23, 2015 21:54:58 GMT
Billions of years ago, the earth was never hit by the so-called 'Planet X', which would mean that the earth never would of had a moon and life would not develop, at least in the same way.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 9:36:42 GMT
Nazi Germany winning WWII
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 9:37:04 GMT
Btw specify what, when, where and how it would change
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 10:19:18 GMT
Spartacist Republic Of Germany:
Alternate Option 1: During the uneasy German aftermath of World War 1 and the Chaos Germany descended into. The Spartacist(Communist) revolt of 1919 never happens but instead massive protests continue. So the leaders Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht are never murdered by the Freikorps during the revolt. The Spartacists never fall into dissray and continue to gather strength and Germany continues to grow uneasy. The Great Depression destroys the German economy again in 1929 and the people look for a radical alternative for the failing capitalist government. Seeing as the Soviet Union is one of the only countries not as badly effected by the Wall street crash the German people see the obvious choice. As the Communist party is already stronger than it was in our timeline the people eventually get the Communist Party into power with the majority of the Seats in Parliment and whatever is nessesary to become heads of Government.
Alternate Option 2: During the uneasy German aftermath of World War 1 and the Chaos Germany descended into. The Spartacist(Communist) revolt of 1919 never happens but instead massive protests continue. So the leaders Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht are never murdered by the Freikorps during the revolt. The Spartacists never fall into dissray and continue to gather strength and Germany continues to grow uneasy. The Great Depression destroys the German economy again in 1929 and the people look for a radical alternative for the failing capitalist government. The Spartacist look back to Karl Liebknecht idea for a military coup to overthrow the government with an armed revolution. Over a period of time the Communists grow in power and obtain weapons. The Great Depression shattered the Capitalist Government. The Communists overthrow the Government. Without the help of the Freikorps, the Government and Military cannot organize a proper offensive and the Communists win.
Possible Aftermath: Hitler never comes to power and the second world war never starts. Germany becomes the second communist country in the world instead of China and becomes of a communist influence into the west. The Soviet's "Iron Curtain" never falls across Europe. Instead possible Communist states would be formed across Europe with German influence. The Spartacist Republic and the Soviet Union become extremely close allies and trading partners. The United Nations is not formed and Colonialism continues to exist(Though would probably happen in the future). The Spartacist Republic Of Germany is no where near as dictatorial or undemocratic as the Soviet Union and actually elects people into power for all its history. Disagreements on how Communism is would happen with the Germans and the Soviets. Whether they would fall out like Sino-Soviet split is unknown. It would also have an extremely militarized border with France and Italy.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 24, 2015 14:45:11 GMT
Nazi Germany winning WWII Nazi Germany winning IS an alternate event, nothing wrong there
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 15:53:40 GMT
Nazi Germany winning IS an alternate event, nothing wrong there Care to elaborate then?
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Post by Theropod on Jan 24, 2015 17:55:07 GMT
Nazi Germany winning IS an alternate event, nothing wrong there Care to elaborate then? If Nazi Germany's enemies had lost, Nazi Germany would've won the war. I am so good at this.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 18:26:54 GMT
If Nazi Germany's enemies had lost, Nazi Germany would've won the war. I am so good at this. There is no way Nazi Germany could have won. They couldn't conquer the Soviets during the winter as seen in our timeline and it would be impossible to actually invade the United States. They also couldn't invade Britian as they would suffer major casualties and open up a second front as by the time the unsuccessful blitz(German bombing of Britian) stopped they already invaded the USSR which would open up a second front. They were doomed from the start.
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Post by Theropod on Jan 24, 2015 19:19:44 GMT
If Nazi Germany's enemies had lost, Nazi Germany would've won the war. I am so good at this. There is no way Nazi Germany could have won. They couldn't conquer the Soviets during the winter as seen in our timeline and it would be impossible to actually invade the United States. They also couldn't invade Britian as they would suffer major casualties and open up a second front as by the time the unsuccessful blitz(German bombing of Britian) stopped they already invaded the USSR which would open up a second front. They were doomed from the start. IfRepresents a scenario had it happened, no matter the circumstance
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 20:12:36 GMT
There is no way Nazi Germany could have won. They couldn't conquer the Soviets during the winter as seen in our timeline and it would be impossible to actually invade the United States. They also couldn't invade Britian as they would suffer major casualties and open up a second front as by the time the unsuccessful blitz(German bombing of Britian) stopped they already invaded the USSR which would open up a second front. They were doomed from the start. IfRepresents a scenario had it happened, no matter the circumstance 1. The OP says possible events 2. If thats the case then you pretty much claim anything
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Post by Theropod on Jan 24, 2015 21:23:28 GMT
IfRepresents a scenario had it happened, no matter the circumstance 1. The OP says possible events 2. If thats the case then you pretty much claim anything Technically Nazi Germany had a chance of winning the war, no matter how small it was.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 24, 2015 21:42:25 GMT
2003's Iraq War, it never happening
Alternate Option: The United States, the UK and the rest of NATO dismiss the possibility that Saddam Hussein may fund terrorism against the NATO opperations in Afghanistan and may be in possesion of weapons of mass destruction. They decided not to invade and waste supplies on a war that would destablize the region and would be counter productive to the War on Terror.
Possible Aftermath: With no Iraq war all the focus would remain on Afghanistan and the all the man power, resources and effort coming along with it. Taliban influence would be severely reduced in Afghanistan and the war effort would be more controlled and successful. Iraq would never be subject to terrorism or radical islamic militants as the Secular Saddam Hussein would crush any radicalisation efforts. Taliban influence in Pakistan would be severely reduced with a more controlled Afghan war effort, meaning less terrorists flooding into Pakistan to escape US forces. Iraq would still be ruled by Sadam Hussein, a homicidal, totalitarian dictator. This would continue. Whether the Arab Spring would overthrow Saddam's regime is another thing entirely though. Saddamn Hussein had way more control over his people and state than any other country effected in the Arab Spring. Whether his grip could survive is one thing but it was certainly possible. Any protests and demonstrations would be silenced instantly. A civil war is something that can be debated. It would continue to have hostilities with Iran and would be possibly be working with the US with anti-Iranian affairs included its controversial nuclear program. In 2014 ISIS would be more involved in either Afghanistan which would bring ISIS into conflict with the United States or Syria which aid would be given by Iraq to supress it. Terrorist groups in the world would be much poorer and no where near as powerful without Iraq as its training and breeding ground for its militants.
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Post by thesporerex on Jan 25, 2015 14:26:56 GMT
What do you people think of these senarios I've made
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